I need HELP


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I need HELP

Postby demac1763 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:19 pm



I took the air filter out and also took the bottom of the air box off of the carbs, I was smelling gas and I wanted to make sure the smell wasn't from the carbs with a loose connection etc. So as I am trying to put it back together, I am having a hard time getting the black hose that connects to the bottom of the box back on. It had a spring clip that held it to the bottom piece it attaches to, but I dropped that down in the bike and cant find it. I dropped it trying to reattach the hose which is extremely hard to do. how important is this hose, and how is an easier way to attach it? My bike is apart waiting on a petcock rebuild kit from cyclemax so I will be putting it back together this week. any suggestions? :cry:


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Re: I need HELP

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:28 pm

This tube moves blow-by gases from the crankcase up into the air cleaner, so that they can be re-burned, rather than spewed out in to the environment. The bike will run without it, but you'll have two problems:

- Oily goop and mist will be blown out of the end of this hose, all over the place
- Unfiltered air will be sucked into this hole, bypassing your air filter, and into the carburetors

I hate those stupid spring clips, they're next to impossible to work, and they lose tension over the years. I generally replace them with small worm-drive clips, which are easier to get into place and tighten, especially in narrow, restricted areas.

You might want to make sure the lost spring clip hasn't fallen into your throttle linkage, for safety's sake.

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Re: I need HELP

Postby urbanmadness » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:58 pm

it's a pain to get those hose on, but I found that if you take off the right hand side of the fairing you can get to the underside and work on it from under the filter box. Plus one on the worm drive clamp.... I did my buddies with needle nose pliers and it did involve a fair amount of them power words.
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Re: I need HELP

Postby spiralout » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:08 pm

If it's the black hose are the rear of the airbox, that's the crankcase breather hose. It should have been attached to a connector, along with the drain hose, that screws to the box from the inside. If it's the tube at the front right bottom of the airbox, that's the secondary air. It supplies filtered air to the PAIR and probably the IASA. That's where the sucking sound you hear with top of the airbox off comes from. It's the most pita hose to reattach. Hook up the rest of your vac lines on the box first, place the spring clip in the correct position on the secondary air hose and grab the hose as low as you can with some long needle nose and manhandle it up and on to the nipple.

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Re: I need HELP

Postby demac1763 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:50 pm

I finally got it. Man what a pain I agree with what all of you said. I went to harbor freight and got the long needle nose plyers and that's what it took to do it. I was able to find a thicker black pinch clamp that fit tight at the top of the hose and I was able to push it onto the nipple with the plyers. I got it back together except for the radio section since I am hoping the petcock rebuild kit will be here tomorrow. I do think taking all the plastic I took off to get to things becomes easier as I try to do things myself. I can see why the shops charge so much to do it for you
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Re: I need HELP

Postby FM-USA » Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:01 pm

You may find you'll be grabbing them LONG needle nose pliers more often to work on the Wing.
Then after a while you'll wonder why you never got one a loooong time ago.
I picked up the 90 degree long pliers and use it to pull/push items into place.

3 other long tools come in very handy, telescopic magnet rod, 2 foot long finger grabbers and telescopic inspection mirror.
You did find the spring clamp?
If not that telescopic magnet rod pokes around hidden areas really nice.

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Re: I need HELP

Postby demac1763 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:45 pm

I went back to HF and got the magnet and mirror. I used the magnet and couldn't find that stupid spring clamp. When I first started the bike I noticed the throttle had a click to it when I twisted the grip, but after doing it a couple of times it went away. I wonder if that click I felt and heard was the lost clamp? If so I cant find it anywhere, maybe It will stay lost and out of the way. At least I hope so
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Re: I need HELP

Postby FM-USA » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:12 pm

EWWW... a click when throttling. :o
I highly suggest you find that clamp, like Wing Admin said you don't want a stuck throttle in an emergency.
It's round so look lower also, maybe fist tap some covers, you might hear it.
Mirror between the alternator and engine, it's a tight space there to catch things.
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Re: I need HELP

Postby demac1763 » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:51 pm

ok I will try. again tomorrow, I hope I can find the spot your talking about. I looked for 2 hours trying to find it today
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Re: I need HELP

Postby FM-USA » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:07 am

Here's an idea.
Take another clamp, same size and material, tie a thread to it and drop it in the area you dropped the original. Be sure to leave slack in the thread so not to hinder where it wants to go.
Use your mirror to look and around. Drop it a few times. Also use your lights at different angles.

Things like this make's one hate hide and seek.

[HINTS & SUGGESTIONS]
Use your magnet near the clamp you're installing. If it drops it should catch it.
Use white rags to line the area where you're working. Small pain sure but look what you're going thru now.
I use a T-Shirt around 'X' the first time working on something that has small parts and springs. Look through the neck and hands thru the arm holes.
If working on grass/dirt/rocks etc., use drop cloths around the bike.


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"OIL CHANGE?" _FM 07-2009
Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.

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Re: I need HELP

Postby demac1763 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:51 am

Going out now to try your suggestion. Man what a pain because of a dumb mishap on my part. That is what really ticks me off about it. Ill let you know how it goes.
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Re: I need HELP

Postby demac1763 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:43 pm

Well I went through the whole bike with magnet mirror and air compressor and cant find a spring clamp anywhere. maybe it is stuck in a safe place or fell out. I just don't know. But the throttle works fine no flaws and I guess I will have to live with it and be very conscience of how the bike functions. I got the petcock rebuild kit so I'm going to put it back together.. Thank you for all the help :D
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Re: I need HELP

Postby spiralout » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:48 pm

Check down the secondary air hose for the clip.

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Re: I need HELP

Postby demac1763 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:54 pm

Where is that? I'm not sure where our which hose that is
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Re: I need HELP

Postby FM-USA » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:49 pm

demac1763 wrote:Well I went through the whole bike with magnet mirror and air compressor and cant find a spring clamp anywhere. maybe it is stuck in a safe place or fell out. I just don't know. But the throttle works fine no flaws and I guess I will have to live with it and be very conscience of how the bike functions. I got the petcock rebuild kit so I'm going to put it back together.. Thank you for all the help :D

Best thing is you're RIDING!!!
Next best, you have help here.
We do our best with what info we get, sometimes it's not a bad idea to post pictures which helps in understanding the "whach-ya-ma-call it" descriptions.
It's always possible that clamp fell down into a lower cover like the exhaust.
SO, if you start hearing an odd rattle while riding, you found that clamp. ;)

Petcock rebuild. Nip off about 3/8" where it attaches to the intake, that's a usual vac leak area due to heat.
"OIL CHANGE?" _FM 07-2009
Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.

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Re: I need HELP

Postby spiralout » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:12 pm

demac1763 wrote:Where is that? I'm not sure where our which hose that is

It's the hose it was originally on.

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Re: I need HELP

Postby demac1763 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:44 pm

OK thank you. If it's not there I will take the previous advice and ride it
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Re: I need HELP

Postby demac1763 » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:16 am

I want to thank everyone who responded to my post, I am recently new to the Goldwing bikes. I have ridden Honda's and Yamaha's on a smaller scale and not nearly as complex as the Goldwing. I am totally in love with the wing, and I will admit I am lost in the complexity of the bike itself. I really like the brotherhood Of this website and want to thank everyone for all your help. It is another plus to owning a Goldwing. I am going to rebuild the petcock tomorrow and trim the intake as advised. Thank you again for all your help. :D
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Re: I need HELP

Postby OldZX11Rider » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:52 pm

Magnets for finding parts are great. :D
I've got the small magnet on a 2' handle for probing around engine compartments.
I've also got a magnet about 14" long on a handle that will adjust out over 4 feet. When working in grass or gravel, it's mandatory I drop a small part. The big magnet covers a lot of ground and finds the part in a hurry.
I need to get the mirror and the extra long needle nose pliers. :)


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