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Another darksider

Postby Michael Faircloth » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:12 pm



Well today I got an Austone CT mounted on the rear of my 1500 Aspy. I had a Dunlop E3 that had 22K miles and then picked up a nail.... so I went to the "darkside". I went right from having the CT mounted to a Chapter meeting in Fort Lauderdale. From Naples that is about a 300 mile round trip that involved backroads, curves, stop and go and 75 - 80 mph on the freeway (I-75) on the way home. Well my impression of the new CT on my wing... NO DIFFERANCE from the E3... if I had not known it was a CT I would never have guessed. There was no weaving, no wobble, it did not blow up or fly apart, or come off the rim. NO difference, none, nada, nothing. I was riding with a Goldwing Assistant Director that has done over 200K miles on his wing riding only CTs. So that is just my opinion... and BTW I got 43.5 MPG overall. I did have a slight scrapping noise when hitting good dips but only because I have not tied up the front flap on the rear fender yet... will fix that in the morning. Just got back and it is now 11:00 PM.
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Re: Another darksider

Postby joeincalif » Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:52 am

Many happy darksiders out there. horror stories about both, CT and MT. My question is will your insurance company cover you if you go down and they find out you have a NON MOTORCYCLE tire on your bike, Make a call and find out.
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Re: Another darksider

Postby Michael Faircloth » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:02 am

Joe,
The insurance absolutely will cover the bike... including the CT, the GPS, the Cell phone attached, the Camera, non original seat ect. ect.. I have it all documented with them. I would be far more worried about them covering my Rolls for value than the bike, but that is all documented too.
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Re: Another darksider

Postby Michael Faircloth » Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:32 pm

All,
I still have to get some "dyna beads" for my new rear CT. Not a problem with getting them or installing... I had them in the E3 I took off. The question is : has anyone tried anything else as a balancing agent? For example would 3 oz. of water do the same thing... how about lead shot , or mercury ( bad for environment)... in the meantime I will just get some plastic Dyna beads.
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Re: Another darksider

Postby FM-USA » Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:00 pm

NO WATER. NO LEAD SHOT.
I've heard bad stories on liquids.
Get the Dyna beads and be Happy-Happy Joy-Joy. :lol:
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Re: Another darksider

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:11 pm

Michael Faircloth wrote:All,
I still have to get some "dyna beads" for my new rear CT. Not a problem with getting them or installing... I had them in the E3 I took off. The question is : has anyone tried anything else as a balancing agent? For example would 3 oz. of water do the same thing... how about lead shot , or mercury ( bad for environment)... in the meantime I will just get some plastic Dyna beads.
Mike in Naples


I've heard of people using steel shot (small BB's), but I probably wouldn't want to use steel BB's inside a tire with a relatively soft aluminum rim.

Water...leads to corrosion. Again, not on my aluminum rim, or in my steel-belted (and bead) tire.

Lead shot is extremely soft, and would wear away to lead dust in no time.

Mercury will dissolve aluminum. Not great for use on a tire on an aluminum rim.

Dyna Beads are actually ceramic, not plastic. They're cheap, and they work great!

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Re: Another darksider

Postby OldZX11Rider » Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:39 pm

Got my new CT on last week (or was it two weeks ago?, oh well) just finished mounting my new Bridgestone BT 45 on the front wheel. :D
Getting everything brought up to date and getting anxious to ride! Temps are rising, I'm seeing more cycles on the highways, it won't be long now. :lol:

Trying to make everything look good too!
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Re: Another darksider

Postby spiralout » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:53 pm

OldZX11Rider wrote:Got my new CT on last week (or was it two weeks ago?, oh well) just finished mounting my new Bridgestone BT 45 on the front wheel.

You did mount that rear tire backwards on the front wheel, right?

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Re: Another darksider

Postby OldZX11Rider » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:21 pm

No. I mounted it frontwards.
I read everything I could on why it should be mounted backwards, and it comes down to it don't make any difference. :D
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Re: Another darksider

Postby spiralout » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:29 pm

OldZX11Rider wrote:No. I mounted it frontwards.
I read everything I could on why it should be mounted backwards, and it comes down to it don't make any difference. :D

The tread patterns are different on rear tires and front tires. Rear tread is designed to grip on acceleration, front tread is designed to grip on deceleration.

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Re: Another darksider

Postby OldZX11Rider » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:46 pm

I read about the tread pattern differences and also how they're designed to work in wet conditions.
But from the riders that have mounted their tire in the forward turning direction, they're saying they really haven't noticed any difference.
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Re: Another darksider

Postby spiralout » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:05 pm

OldZX11Rider wrote:I read about the tread pattern differences and also how they're designed to work in wet conditions.
But from the riders that have mounted their tire in the forward turning direction, they're saying they really haven't noticed any difference.

Cool. Just making sure you knew

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Re: Another darksider

Postby OldZX11Rider » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:14 pm

Thought I would give it a try. If I don't like it, I can always turn it around bassackwards. :lol:

And if I don't like that,...I'll just get a regular front tire. :roll:
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Re: Another darksider

Postby OldZX11Rider » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:14 pm

Thought I would give it a try. If I don't like it, I can always turn it around bassackwards. :lol:

And if I don't like that,...I'll just get a regular front tire. :roll:
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Re: Another darksider

Postby OldZX11Rider » Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:46 pm

Was too warm today to not go for a ride. Got up to 74°F. First ride since all the work I've done on it this winter.
I noticed the Goodyear Fuel Assurance was a little shorter than the Bridgestone Excedra (?) I took off. Had to use reverse to back out of the shop. Never did before.
Got 40 lbs. of air the the Goodyear. At low speed, parking lot speeds, I could feel it squirming. Will have to experiment with the air pressure.
First time I hit the brakes, I immediately noticed the lack of noise coming from the front end. New pads and the greasy parts lined with new grease. Ahhhhhh.

The new front tire felt good but will need a few more miles to get broke in. My new (used) air shock that I mounted a week and a half ago, was still holding the same air pressure from a week ago.

The power coming from such a large bike, so smooth and linear, just puts a smile on my face. :D

Now I've got the bike almost finished, good weather is coming and I need to work on all the other stuff I've put off. :(

A man's work is just never done. :lol:
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Re: Another darksider

Postby OldZX11Rider » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:04 pm

Added 5 lbs. of pressure to the rear tire, 45 lbs. of pressure now. Wow! What a difference 5 lbs. of pressure makes! :D

Rode a bit more than a hundred miles, with my previous ride, my mileage total was 181.1 when I stopped to fill up with fuel. Took 3.5 gallons of regular, (no ethanol!) fuel. So I got a bit over 51 miles per gallon.

As soon as I pulled into the shop, drained all the oil and rear end gear oil.
So new 20W50 oil and filter for the engine and new Lucas synthetic 75W90 gear oil in the rear.
I'm ready for a trip. Got my new tent on Tuesday and can't wait to try it out. :D
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Re: Another darksider

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:58 am

OldZX11Rider wrote:Added 5 lbs. of pressure to the rear tire, 45 lbs. of pressure now. Wow! What a difference 5 lbs. of pressure makes! :D

Rode a bit more than a hundred miles, with my previous ride, my mileage total was 181.1 when I stopped to fill up with fuel. Took 3.5 gallons of regular, (no ethanol!) fuel. So I got a bit over 51 miles per gallon.

As soon as I pulled into the shop, drained all the oil and rear end gear oil.
So new 20W50 oil and filter for the engine and new Lucas synthetic 75W90 gear oil in the rear.
I'm ready for a trip. Got my new tent on Tuesday and can't wait to try it out. :D


More air pressure = smaller contact patch = less friction = better mileage

However, smaller contact patch = wear concentrated on smaller area = shorter tire life

There's no free lunch! :)

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Re: Another darksider

Postby OldZX11Rider » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:05 am

I haven't gone out and looked, yet, but maybe with a little more air pressure the tire tread may be a little more rounded.
But I agree, there's no free lunch. :lol:
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Re: Another darksider

Postby GoldWingRev » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:16 am

What tire size is your Austone? And the Goodyear Assurance is 195mm wide, correct?

I gave up on CT, I think I had the last 175/75R16 tire in history. The Bridgestone Excedra is the OE tire for the Honda Goldwing and works fine...but I don't think a 195 will got and my only other option was a 185/55R16 for the Honda Fit which might cause rubbing.

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Re: Another darksider

Postby OldZX11Rider » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:31 am

I thought it was a Goodyear "Fuel" Assurance. However, on the sidewall of the tire, It says Goodyear Assurance. But It is a 175-60/R16.
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Re: Another darksider

Postby GoldWingRev » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:40 am

OldZX11Rider wrote:I thought it was a Goodyear "Fuel" Assurance. However, on the sidewall of the tire, It says Goodyear Assurance. But It is a 175-60/R16.


Where did you find that? It has too many names, I knew what you meant. The low-rolling resistance Goodyear.

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Re: Another darksider

Postby OldZX11Rider » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:48 am

Walmart. :lol:
It was Wal-Mart. Was at the store and going through their book in automotive and found it.
They had to order it but it was only a 3 or 4 day wait.
Not where I normally shop for tires. :lol:


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