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Postby hap2 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:36 pm



How much weight (gross) will a 1500 pull?

I'm looking at a trailer made out of plywood 4' X 6' (3' high)



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Re: trailer

Postby dingdong » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:17 am

There are no guidelines for max weight when pulling a trailer with the 1500 or any other bike. What you are going to get is strictly opinion. I personally pull a trailer that weighs, when loaded, around 250 lbs. I know other guys who regularly pull campers that weigh up to 500 lbs. I know one guy who pulled, with his 1500, a 4 x 8 ft trailer from Cal. to Ark. with a wrecked gl1500 loaded on it. So that would be over 1000lbs. He says he had no problems. Draw backs for me (opinion) would be braking and tongue weight when towing a heavy trailer.
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Postby WingAdmin » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:43 am

Pulling my camper which is 325 lbs empty, maybe 400 lbs fully loaded, my GL1500 has no problems. It accelerates slower, and it definitely takes more time, planning and consideration when braking and turning.

I don't think I would want to pull much more than that - I think that's approaching the upper limit of what I would consider "safe" - especially without trailer brakes.

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Re: trailer

Postby hap2 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:50 am

Thanx or the reply. I tried to attach a pic of the trailer I'm looking at. I'm not sure if the pic came up or just the link.
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Postby WingAdmin » Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:42 am

hap2 wrote:Thanx or the reply. I tried to attach a pic of the trailer I'm looking at. I'm not sure if the pic came up or just the link.


Any idea what it weighs? Just as a guess, I'm going to say you'll probably have no problem pulling it with your GL1500. Depends on what's inside it, I guess!

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Postby Wingsconsin » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:26 pm

The 1500 has plenty of power to PULL a big trailer...
But you have to be able to STOP a big trailer as well...
THAT is the part that would worry me -
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Postby WingAdmin » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:40 pm

Wingsconsin wrote:The 1500 has plenty of power to PULL a big trailer...
But you have to be able to STOP a big trailer as well...
THAT is the part that would worry me -


Yes, stopping is more of an issue than pulling. Also a big issue is cornering - you have limited lateral traction on a motorcycle, and when you're in a corner, it is easy for a heavy trailer to push the back end of a bike out if it is not set up correctly, or if you're going too fast, or have to brake, or hit a bump, or hit some sand or other slippery substance...

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Re: trailer

Postby Mh434 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:50 am

From a legal & safety standpoint, in most jurisdictions (in BC, it's a statutory requirement, and I believe it's the same in AB) you are not permitted to tow a trailer that has a gross weight that exceeds 50% of the towing vehicle's weight unless the trailer is equipped with a working brake system.

This is particularly important in motorcycles - if you're in a turn, and need to brake fairly hard, the trailer is going to try to force you into an oversteer situation (i.e., try to push the rear end of the bike toward the outside of the turn) and, as a bike is relatively light compared to 4-wheel vehicles, this deflection force can be pronounced.

Ideally, keep the weight of the trailer as light as possible, or if it's gross weight is likely to exceed 500 lbs. or so (assuming a GL1500 loaded weight of about 1000 lbs), it should be equipped with a proper electric brake system of its own.

Such a brake system needs to be VERY carefully set up for the weight of the trailer - if it's too sensitive, it can lock up when activated in a turn, the trailer can suddenly swing out to the side like a pendulum, & drag the rear end of the bike right around - a serious crash is guaranteed.

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Re: trailer

Postby hap2 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:31 am

'Mornin'!

In 5 years, I've never had a problem with my 4 X 6 box trailer loaded with about 400 lbs & towed by either my car OR 'my' 1500, but anyway, thanx for the info.

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Re: trailer

Postby RBGERSON » Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:32 am

The problems don't arise until everything is not running smoothly..that's the problem..riding with no issues..straight roads, even nice sweeping curves and no one in your way..and no need to brake quickly you could probably tow..1,000 lbs. no problem..BUT!! if something goes wrong..a car swerves in front of you and you react too quickly or over correct, someone brakes quickly in front of you and your are too close..etc.,etc. then the trailer can cause you problems, an accident that wouldn't have happened if you weren't towing a trailer. That's what everyone is talking about I think.
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Re: trailer

Postby hap2 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:04 am

Ya, I agree. However, I do 95% of my trailer-biking on the highway, so no problem..esp with the defensive way I drive. And in the city as well...of course I drive as a professional, so, obviously super-carefully if I'm in my Greyhound type charter bus, bike, or car. I, for one, don;t need the bumper sticker that says "If u don't like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalks" sign. lol But thanx for the concern anyway. Tis noted & appreciated.

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Re: trailer

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:11 pm

RBGERSON wrote:The problems don't arise until everything is not running smoothly..that's the problem..riding with no issues..straight roads, even nice sweeping curves and no one in your way..and no need to brake quickly you could probably tow..1,000 lbs. no problem..BUT!! if something goes wrong..a car swerves in front of you and you react too quickly or over correct, someone brakes quickly in front of you and your are too close..etc.,etc. then the trailer can cause you problems, an accident that wouldn't have happened if you weren't towing a trailer. That's what everyone is talking about I think.


Correct. I usually plan way ahead and give myself lots of room for braking and emergency maneuvers, but when I'm towing my trailer, I just about triple this - once you try a panic stop with the trailer attached, and see just what kind of a difference it makes, you'll realize why you need to do this.

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Re: trailer

Postby hap2 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:29 pm

I agree 100% with what u just said




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