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Going with radials tires

Postby nedntrish » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:18 pm



I have read a lot about cost and safety going in favor with installing radial tires on goldwings. What I can't find is the how to part. Is it as simple as buying one and putting it on? If so, what size should I get for my 91? Also some thought from some of you seasoned riders would be appreciated. Thanks for your help and input.



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Re: Going with radials tires

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:51 am

The size of tire shouldn't change - the main problem is FINDING one in that size. Also, if you're going with radials, you should be putting them on both front and rear at the same time. Don't have a bias on one wheel and a radial on the other.

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Re: Going with radials tires

Postby Fatwing Chris » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:30 am

WingAdmin wrote:The size of tire shouldn't change - the main problem is FINDING one in that size. Also, if you're going with radials, you should be putting them on both front and rear at the same time. Don't have a bias on one wheel and a radial on the other.


Have to disagree on using on that one Bud.No problem on a bike running a radial on one end and bias on the other.Either way I don't think you can get radial MT's for a 1500.

A lot of the Darksiders like myself are running a radial CT on the back and a bias rear MT on the front.
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Re: Going with radials tires

Postby spiralout » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:54 am

Fatwing Chris wrote:Either way I don't think you can get radial MT's for a 1500.

I'm running this radial on the front of my '96 at the moment. http://www.jpcycles.com/product/210-202

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Re: Going with radials tires

Postby Fatwing Chris » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:56 am

spiralout wrote:
Fatwing Chris wrote:Either way I don't think you can get radial MT's for a 1500.

I'm running this radial on the front of my '96 at the moment. http://www.jpcycles.com/product/210-202


I stand corrected!There weren't any when I had my 1500 that I know of.
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Re: Going with radials tires

Postby nedntrish » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:19 am

My 91 currently has 160/80r16. When I do a search for it all that comes up are bike tires.

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Re: Going with radials tires

Postby cbx4evr » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:25 am

Front radial is easy to get since the 1800 has same tire size. Only maunfacturer that I have seen with a rear radial in 1500 sizing is Shinko, with the Journey 890 tire.

http://www.shinkotireusa.com/tire/se890-journey-touring
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Re: Going with radials tires

Postby nedntrish » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:29 am

But that's a bike tire. I am looking into going with automotive. It seems, the 1800 are simpler to chang over and to just change the tire. Wish I had the money to get one.

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Re: Going with radials tires

Postby RoadRogue » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:22 pm

there are several CT that work on the 1500. alot of us have chossen the Austone "taxi" tire. It is a 175R16, about 3/4" taller than the bike tire, this gives a slight overdrive effect and lowers your RPM by about 300 for any given speed. You can fit up to a 195 width tire on a 1500. I am curently using a 195-55-16 General Tire Altimax HP. It is about 3/4" shorter than the MT, that helps with pulling my heavy trailer and makes acceleration response instant.
here is a photo showing the difference in tire heights and widths. on te left is a new 175R16Austone , then a very worn out stock E3 and on the right the General tire Altimax 195-55-16.


I know that the 195 looks huge and you may think that there is no way it will ever fit in the swingarm but it does with just enough room to spare. this is my 1500 with a 195 installed.

Now having said that if you are serious about going to the dark side for the first time and you dont pull a trailer or at least not very often I would suggest the Austone Taxi Tire for your first time. It is a very good gripping tire in all conditions and has the most MT feel of any of the CT I have tried so far. it can be found here https://www.universaltire.com/175r16-au ... black.html
there are alot of factors in choosing to run a CT on your bike, do your research, there are several good threads on the subject on this forum. Many people are very vocal that you will crash and burn if you run a CT on your bike, these same people have never tried a CT on any bike. They just say things like " a CT wasnt designed to lean over in a turn so it cant possibly be safe" I say otherwise, but that is only my and thousands of other riders with hundreds of thousands of miles of safe riding under our CT equipped bikes opinion. What ever you decide is good for you just make sure you have done your research to make an informed decision because ultimately your are responsible for your own decisions, ride safe. 8-)
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Re: Going with radials tires

Postby nedntrish » Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:52 pm

Road...

Thanks for the help and the link! I think I will go with your suggestion for the first timmer tire. I do plan on pulling a heavy trailer but that will be very seldom.

But your right, it doesn't look like it will fit. It won't bottom out on my 91 will it?

One last question if I may. I read that the beads between the tires aren't the same and that the bikes rim needs modified, is that true?

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Re: Going with radials tires

Postby robb » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:19 pm

I ran a set of dunlop e3 radials on my 1500 and got great wear, 19k rear and 22k on front. Several new bikes come from factory with bias front and radial rear, Yamaha Raider and some Harley. Radial front with bias rear does not handle as well, but some have made it do. Tires are much better now and radials did bear a better ride.

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Re: Going with radials tires

Postby cbx4evr » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:46 pm

nedntrish wrote:But that's a bike tire. I am looking into going with automotive. It seems, the 1800 are simpler to chang over and to just change the tire. Wish I had the money to get one.



Would have been nice if you would have said that in the original post. All you said was "radial tire" which are available in a bike specific tire or a car tire. Search for "Darkside" and you'll get more info than you can consume.
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Re: Going with radials tires

Postby RoadRogue » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:36 am

nedntrish wrote:Road...

Thanks for the help and the link! I think I will go with your suggestion for the first timmer tire. I do plan on pulling a heavy trailer but that will be very seldom.

But your right, it doesn't look like it will fit. It won't bottom out on my 91 will it?

One last question if I may. I read that the beads between the tires aren't the same and that the bikes rim needs modified, is that true?

there is NO need to modify your rim, you may need to tie the inner fender forward a little as there may be some rubbing with the Austone tire, easy to do with the wheel off still. Do a search of this site for the Austone taxi tire for tips. 8-)


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