replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank


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replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby ecarmichael » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:18 am



Good morning sports fans,

So I replaced my rear frame after finding brackets for trunk mounts snapped off. I had a lot of fun digging thru all the crap (mouse nests, etc) from where it lived in a barn at some point in its life. I got everything back together and now it won't crank. I read thru several threads on why most won't start.

1. Checked the kill switch - no problem
2. Neutral light and kick stand light both illuminate
3. Exercised reverse lever thru its range of motion, reverse light comes on, no change
4. Headlight drops out like it should when start switch engaged

I can hear the switches engaging under the trunk.

Do any of the components I removed and replaced from the rear frame act as safety switches? I haven't identified what each of their functions is yet.

While I had all the Tupperware off I serviced rear brakes, drive line lube, oil change, cruise and sub air filters, gas filter.

I'm prepared to head back under the trunk based on your recommendations.



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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby ct1500 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:30 pm

There are no switches under trunk that would make any noise and the reverse light should not come on unless the engine is running. The clicking noises I suspect are devices protesting voltages where none are supposed to be. Likely scenario is electrical connector(s) got mismatched. Pictures might help.
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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby Snowmoer » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:47 pm

Make sure both of the big connectors are together and locked. Push each end together, not just the middle. Also, the tip over switch is back there, is it plugged in? You might just have to go through each plug and check it. A connector might have pulled out and you are not seeing it.

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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby ecarmichael » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:55 pm

Thanks Snowmoer and CT1500, I'll work thru the disconnect and reconnect and let you all know how that goes. I'll take some pics too.

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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby ecarmichael » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:19 pm

what are the two components, 1 at my finger tip and at the end of the screwdriver at the top of the photo?
Tip over switch?
Tip over switch?

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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby ecarmichael » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:26 pm

What else am I overlooking?
What else am I overlooking?


I know the green connector still needs to be reconnected, I'm going thru and disconnecting and reconnecting all the ones I touched . so far, no joy.

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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby ecarmichael » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:27 pm

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I know the green connector still needs to be reconnected, I'm going thru and disconnecting and reconnecting all the ones I touched . so far, no joy.

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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby ct1500 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:29 pm

Part on the top is the reverse regulator and the other is the bank angle sensor. The pics are such poor quality cannot see much.
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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby ecarmichael » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:48 pm

So the lesson learned with this adventure...make sure you mount the bank angle sensor right side up. If you mount it upside down, it thinks the bike is upside down and won't start. I spent about an hour in the repair manual working thru T/S section, finally ran across an illustration of the bank angle sensor and realized I had it upside down. By the way, there is a ton of great t/s info in those repair manuals, I need to spend more time in there and get more familiar with the content.

Thanks for your patience and help. I hope my lesson will save someone else some time.

Pictures show first one upside down and second one is the correct configuration.
Bank angle senor upside down
Bank angle senor upside down
Bank angle sensor mounted correctly
Bank angle sensor mounted correctly

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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby FM-USA » Sun May 08, 2016 7:33 pm

I can see why you mounted it upside down.
There's what looks like a large arrow on its face so one might take that as UP.
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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby ecarmichael » Mon May 09, 2016 9:23 am

I wish I could say I used that kind of logic for getting it right side up...but in actuality, I was just a bonehead and put it back on upside down. :lol:

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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby FM-USA » Mon May 09, 2016 4:23 pm

I wonder... am I to surmise the 'V' on that sensor is the shut off angle?
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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby ecarmichael » Mon May 09, 2016 4:59 pm

hmmmmm, I don't know, I can see where you are going with it. There were some numbers in the manual about how many degrees were acceptable. I'll have to look at that page again.

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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby FM-USA » Mon May 09, 2016 6:12 pm

Being in retail for decades, my guess is the manual shouldn't say anything about the 'V' design.
"HIGH TECH", 'seat of the pants' and scientific test... could take it off, run the bike and tilt it by. ;)
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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby ecarmichael » Tue May 10, 2016 1:48 pm

Roger that...luckily there was a small illustration that showed the flat side on top. Otherwise, I think I would still be scratching my head.

Part of what the manual did help with on the T/Sing, there was a list of all the electrical pieces parts that could cause the bike not to start. The only one on the list I had touched was the bank angle sensor. So, I just had to work my way thru until I figured it out.

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Re: replaced rear frame now 92 1500A won't crank

Postby FM-USA » Tue May 10, 2016 2:18 pm

ecarmichael wrote:....The only one on the list I had touched was the bank angle sensor. So, I just had to work my way thru until I figured it out.

One quick way of dealing with many parts and their orientation as it's being removed is to take a marker or piece of tape and mark the parts UP side. And as others say, got a SmartPhone, do a quick pix. Everyone has there own tricks.

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