Bike died


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kfuzesy
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Bike died

Postby kfuzesy » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:01 pm



Hit the starter switch this morning, it hesitated to start but did. Drove to the battery store where it was determined to be a good battery as I thought(two years old and he checked it twice). Turned the key on and every things was dead. I hit the starter and heard a light steady ticking noise under the key ignition. Checked the fuses and kill switch which were found to be O.K.
Any thoughts?

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Re: Bike died

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:22 pm

Sorry I didn't recognize this as a new post about another bike.Your post kinda got burried in the middle.
So your's is a 96 model...a little bit different than the 88 circuits.
In checking your fuses,were you using a test lamp or a volt meter.?
You also mention that the fuses were OK..Did that test include the main dogbone by the battery?
With a volt meter and the key ON..measure direct across the battery posts...volts should be above 11.5 volts..
Move your meter leads to the frame and the dog bone fuse contacts...both sides...there should be the same volts...
Dog bone fuses can crack...battery lugs can be loose or corroded too.

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Re: Bike died

Postby kfuzesy » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:58 pm

Haven't tried that. I did try jumper cables and that worked. If the battery tested as O.K. (twice) do I need a buy a new battery every two year or will these test's you describe turn up something? Thanks

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Re: Bike died

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:05 am

All you did was attach jumper cables to the battery, without the jumper vehicle running, and it cranked right up ? Sure sounds like a battery issue to me. Maybe alternator related, but if that's the same battery that supposedly was just declared 'good' by some load test, I'd suspect that load test, or the tester. I don't put much faith in these new style electronic load testers. I don't know how, given the light nature of the testing cables, they could really perform a true load test, drawing the type of amps needed to accomplish such. The cables could never handle that type of load without burning up. I had a truck battery declared 'good' by two different places, and 2 separate testers. When I replaced the battery, problem solved. I never could find a place with a 'real' load tester. It wasn't worth any more time looking for one. The battery was cheaper than the wasted time, and testing. So, assuming jumping the battery, and assuming you didn't disturb any other weak connection at the battery during the jump, solved your starting issue, get a battery and save yourself the grief.

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Re: Bike died

Postby kfuzesy » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:54 am

Agreed and thanks alot.

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Re: Bike died

Postby baumedagn » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:48 am

Do you keep a tender on the battery? In years past, I was replacing batteries every 2 or3 years. Since I've kept a tender on the battery when the bike is parked, I've extended the battery life considerably. When I bought by 1990 GL1500 in 2009, it came with a gel battery. I have no idea how old the battery was. But I put a tender on it when parked, and it lasted the 4 years I had it. I'm on the 4th season with my GL1800 battery and it's as strong as new. Just my .02 for whatever it's worth.

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Re: Bike died

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:47 am

I should have agreed with Virgilmobile on his suggestion. With test leads to a VOM directly on the battery, turning on the key switch, or hitting the starter button should reveal a noticeable voltage drop at the battery, if that is indeed your problem. There's no magic there. If the battery has an issue, it will show as a voltage drop off when 'loaded' by an electrical draw. A much larger drop when the starter is engaged. Hope you did run that test. If that test doesn't reveal the expected results, you may just be experiencing some well timed coincidences, that are looking like a bad battery, with the problem lying elsewhere.

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Re: Bike died

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:56 am

This isn't my first rodeo for locating a problem.I am not a parts changer crossing my fingers.I do always suggest a test procedure.
I've learned that testing when the problem is occurring is the best way to identify the failure.
It has become painfully obvious that there can be many possibilities.

I'm still amazed at the different problems that show up and what people verify as the root cause.

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Re: Bike died

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:03 pm

Your first post included this information..." Turned the key on and every things was dead."
This is odd considering the battery was just tested...twice.
At that moment another test needs to be done...
Where did the volts go?
Why was the bike dead?
Was it actually the battery?
A loose connector?

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Re: Bike died

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:22 pm

Yeah, it wasn't that I missed the necessary steps "in my head". It's that I forgot the possible lack of diagnostic skills on the part of the OP. I was assuming that some basic diagnostics were surely, already done. Forgetting that might not be the case. I was skipping ahead to the most obvious answer. I've got to remember the 'audience' of these posts. Lots of varying levels of skill, especially when electrical is involved.

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Re: Bike died

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:50 pm

I do understand...My boss even tells me sometimes..."too much information..you're scaring the natives." :ugeek: :lol: They just went glassy eyed. :?:

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Re: Bike died

Postby bustedwing » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:10 am

Last year I bought a new battery from a well known big box store that is 20 miles from my house. Got it, filled it with acid , put a charge on it overnight, installed it, and no good. I have my own tester and sure nuf, no good! Took it back, got another one, did this four times!! Finally went to a Honda dealer and got one that was good!! For all the miles I put on just running back and forth I could have paid for that battery several times!!


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