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89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby nayron » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:12 am



I have a 89 GL1500 that suddenly started blowing a fuse. The fourth one from the bottom. Lights and instrument panel go .
I am a rookie and have no clue. HELP



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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:28 am

Is this the 15 amp tail fuse?
Does it blow intermittently?
Do you have any add on wiring like extra lights or trailer plug?
Pinched/chaffed wires are the most likely cause... especially at the back end of the bike.

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby NVSB4 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:42 pm

I agree with Virgil, that's the one that controls a whole lot (Accessory lights; Instrument panel gauges, Instrument panel indicators, Cornering lights, Headlight relays, License plate light, Position lights, Side marker lights, Taillights, Reverse system control, Handlebar illumination)
You probably have a short somewhere.
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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby hugger-4641 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:17 am

When you say "suddenly started blowing fuses", do you mean nothing else coincided with this? Or perhaps was there a rear tire installation, seat removal, new battery, or something else that was done right before this started happening? If there was, then that would be a good place to start checking for pinched wires.

I have a lighted front rotor cover that is prone to getting a short where the wires exit the cover. So I know that if I get a blown fuse after a brake job or front tire removal, this probably where I will start looking.

If there was nothing else done that coincides with this problem, then you will just have to start somewhere and identify what circuit is overloading. I would start by removing the reverse relay and see if the fuse still blows, then remove the headlight relays, etc. If this process doesn't lead you to the problem, you may have to start cutting wires and using an amp meter in series to find the problem. If it is an intermittent problem, my gut would agree with virgil that you may end up finding the problem at the back of the bike somewhere.

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby nayron » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:53 pm

Thanks for all the info guys.
I did add some flashing strobe lights.
The first time we thought it was the radio causing the problem.
I will start with unplugging them and go from there.
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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby nayron » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:13 pm

Well, the add on lights are unhooked from the bike and still blows the fuse when you turn the key on.
I will start with the relays tomorrow...

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:50 pm

A relay will not blow a fuse.Its a electric switch,not the cause of the short.

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby glenwegener » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:17 pm

Got the same problem here today. I am 1800 miles from home on the Maine, New Brunswick border. First I hit a deer this morning!!! It was a small one and drove right over the top of it, trailer and all. If I would have been looking the other way, I don't think I would have even known it. I looked back in my rear view mirror and saw it rolling down the center lane until a log truck went over it. Stopped, no blood, no hair no damage to anything. God was truly watching out for me. Okay, back to the fuse problem. I do pull a trailer and have a converter on it. Put new fuse in 15 amp taillight fuse, everything fine, get on the freeway and a couple miles it blows. Put in another fuse and same thing couple miles then blows. Two bikes followed me into the way side rest and said I had blinkers and brake lights, but no tail lights. So, unplugged the trailer to see if it would do it again. Same thing, couple miles down the road it blew. No gauges, no reverse, no tail lights, no headlight In hotel room right now looking for answers. It was a very long day!!!! Do trailer converters go bad? Just thinking.

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:36 pm

Quick question.Is your bike also a 88-89 model?
Do you have any add on lights besides the trailer?
Did the fuse blow after this incident or before?

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby hugger-4641 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:47 pm

virgilmobile wrote:A relay will not blow a fuse.Its a electric switch,not the cause of the short.

Relay itself won't blow the fuse, but if the circuit it activates is shorted, it can. That is why I would start by pulling the relays to de-activate each circuit that can be isolated at the relays and hopefully find the one that is shorted. ;)

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:39 am

Not really gonna be much help.Theres just one relay involved.
The only circuit that runs independent is the park position of the key switch.
Turn the handle bars to the left,push down the key and turn one click to the left.this turns on just the lower park lamps on the rear,radio and meter lamp.
All other lamps stay off.
If you would like to isolate the short,remove the seat and unplug the large plug feeding the back end of the bike.A process of elimination.
When I have a blown fuse,ill substitute it with a light bulb.In a 15 amp circuit,i use a old headlight or such (be aware of the heat).During the short,it simply lights up and when the short is removed it goes dim.

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby nayron » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:47 pm

OK, checking the relays, with #3 out, new fuse, switch on. Did not blow the fuse like it did on #1 & #3.
Short some where on any one of the things that fuse and relay control, RIGHT????
How do I figure that out??

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby nayron » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:48 pm

Oh yeah, it is the #8 fuse.

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:13 pm

Other than hunting and hoping you will need a method of testing and where to unplug.I still recommend using a lamp in place of the blown fuse.A ohm meter will show a short on that wire due to all the lamps hooked to it.
Use a lamp that draws 5 amp or so.
I have used a old headlight/spotlight/halogen driving light for this.
When attached and the key is on,the lamp lights full bright...as soon as the shorted circuit is disconnected,the light goes dim.

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:14 pm

You can kinda isolate which end of the bike the problem is.
Remove the seat and unplug the large 22P-White plug with 11 wires in it...The fused relay does feed this plug and all the stuff in the back.
If that's not it,locate and unplug 14P-Black...it's a 10 wire plug behind the insturment cluster...The fused relay feeds through this plug to the front of the bike.Hopefully one or the other unplugged will stop blowing fuses.Which ever one it is can then be narrowed down further.

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e: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby nayron » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:58 pm

I will tackle this task of locating the 14P and 22P and unplug one at a time.
So, I unplug 22P and put in a fuse and turn on the switch to see if it blows
Then do the same with 14P
Wish me luck

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e: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby nayron » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:02 pm

I will tackle this task of locating the 14P and 22P and unplug one at a time.
So, I unplug 22P and put in a fuse and turn on the switch to see if it blows
Then do the same with 14P
Wish me luck

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby nayron » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:10 pm

Where can I find the diagrams you posted?
I have Clymer GL1500--1988-1992 (M505)

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:48 am

I wish I had that manual.The only manual I have is the 88-89 euro.Its all I could find when I got mine.Its in PDF format.
Unplugging should separate the lights from the bike.Each plug for each end.This should lead you (at least) to the area of the short.

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby nayron » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:51 am

Thanks, I'm gonna try that today.
The manual I mentioned , I found on Ebay. A little pricey but worth it.

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby nayron » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:03 pm

OK, I'm not the brightest bulb in the box.
I can't locate the two boxes you told me to unplug
22P and 14P
Anyone have a picture showing the location and what they look like???

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:54 pm

Fresh from under my seat and confirmed that when unplugged it disconnects power to the rear lights.
Here's a picture toward the back.The plug is in a protective clamshell on the left side.

Closer look.
Ignore my add on wiring.
The clamshell is pretty secure but there are release tabs.
now you can see the plug.
Push down on the tab where my thumb is.
While pushing down,pull the plug apart.Just enough to break connection.
pit in a new fuse and turn on the key.If the fuse blows,the short is most likely up front.If it does not blow,its somewhere in the arse end.

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby nayron » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:55 pm

Thanks man, I'm slow, but I'm learning as I go.
You all have been a great help
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I will keep you posted

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby nayron » Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:55 pm

Unplugged the one for the rear of the trike. Fuse didn't blow. Started with light bulbs, all good. Next wiring , the last thing we checked was a cluster under the trike. FOUND IT. There was a group of wires all twisted together and bare. Taped them up and BINGO, everything works , back to normal.
Well what ever normal is.
Can't wait to get back on the road for much needed wind therapy.
A GIANT THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU WHO HAS HELPED ME FIGURE THIS OUT. GOD BLESS YOU ALL

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Re: 89 GO1500 fuse problem

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:14 pm

Yeaaaa :D :D
Your getting the hang of this :geek:
Glad you found the problem.A lot easier when you know where to .look :D

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