Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.


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Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby Sir Rides Alot » Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:50 am



Greetings all.
I'm new to this forum but long time bike rider.
I have owned various bikes since 1979 and I currently own a 1985 1200 Aspencade Goldwing that I will be trading in for a 1996 S.E. with-in the next week. (both shown below )
I'm looking forward to gaining the reverse feature and the added CC s to 1500.
Any advice on my near future upgrade and/or what to expect ? :)
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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby NVSB4 » Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:43 am

I went from an '86 1200 Aspy to a '92 1500 Interstate to current '96 SE.
You'll notice a lot of differences that are weight and size related.
The 1500 is the largest and heaviest Goldwing.
It will take a little while to get used to it, but you will love the ride.
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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby raven41951 » Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:52 am

I went from a Shadow ACE 1100 to my 94 1500 SE. Larger and heavier it is. I kept the 1100 for short rides so I wouldn't have to muscle that big beast around town. After a month on the 1500, I gave the 1100 to my kid brother (he's only 60). What a sweet ride the 1500 is and easy to maneuver too!

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Postby Sir Rides Alot » Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:27 pm

Sounds ( or reads ) like I'm going really enjoy my newer bike once I get it.
I noticed you both mentioned, ( raven41951 and NVSB4 ), how the S.E. will be heavier and larger than my current 1200 .
Hopefully the center of gravity is low though correct ? I love riding through the Ozark Boston Mountains on the winding highway 90 to Eureka Springs Arkansas or highway 62.
Both roadways are very hilly & curvy as well as scenic. I'm assuming the 96 S.E. will handle well across them? :D
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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby raven41951 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:59 am

It'll eat'em up. No problems with handling tight turns. I slow down 5mph prior to turn then accelerate through it. No problem. When I had mine less than a month I got caught in the dark and heavy rain. Taking a turn I did not see the small rocks (bigger than pebbles) that had washed out into the turn and when I hit them I thought the bike was going out from under me as it started to slide. Before I could react, the bike grabbed the road and continued on like nothing happened. Needless to say I watch turns very closely now and stay away from rain when I can.

Make sure your tires are good (see DIY for checking tire age), rear shock at 40 psi +/- according to your like and front shocks at 0 psi.

If it doesn't have a fork brace you might want one, but not an absolute necessity. Get some miles on it first. Lots on good info here on what to add/upgrade.

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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby NVSB4 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:28 am

Sir Rides Alot wrote:Sounds ( or reads ) like I'm going really enjoy my newer bike once I get it.
I noticed you both mentioned, ( raven41951 and NVSB4 ), how the S.E. will be heavier and larger than my current 1200 .
Hopefully the center of gravity is low though correct ? I love riding through the Ozark Boston Mountains on the winding highway 90 to Eureka Springs Arkansas or highway 62. Both roadways are very hilly & curvy as well as scenic. I'm assuming the 96 S.E. will handle well across them? :D

The 1500's are heavier and larger, but I personally welcomed the change. I feel that it "fits" me better.
They are still easy to handle and the only thing you really need to learn is how to pick it up when you drop it (and you will).
I've done some of the Ozarks in S Arkansas and love the handling.
Go to an open parking lot, practice your turns and in no time you'll be peg scraping the twisties.
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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby Sir Rides Alot » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:31 pm

NVSB4 wrote :
The 1500's are heavier and larger, but I personally welcomed the change. I feel that it "fits" me better.
They are still easy to handle and the only thing you really need to learn is how to pick it up when you drop it (and you will).
I've done some of the Ozarks in S Arkansas and love the handling.
Go to an open parking lot, practice your turns and in no time you'll be peg scraping the twisties.


Do or have you toured in the Mena Arkansas area? If yes... have you been on the "Sky Line drive" near there? I haul Engineers and conductors to-and-from their trains for K.C.S. railroad around that area.
(anywhere between K.C. Mo and Heavner Ok )
They keep encouraging me to come down from Kansas and check it out sometime on my bike. :)
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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby Rednaxs60 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:44 pm

Weight is only an issue when not moving. Took my '85 LTD and '08 1800 over the scales. Both weigh in at 924 lbs. Steel frame, less plastic, why the same don't know. Take your 1200 over a weigh scale and then take the 1500. Don't rely on the Honda stats, they can be incorrect.

It has been mentioned to take an advance riding course, best value for your dollar then practice. Will enhance you riding considerably. Here is a video of the instructor from the course I took. I go back for a tuneup every year.





The scraping you here are the foot pegs. He does turns at full lock and max lean angle. He is about 5'8" and 160 lbs. He does these patterns with his wife on the back as well.

Have fun with your new GW.

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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby NVSB4 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:17 pm

Sir Rides Alot wrote:Do or have you toured in the Mena Arkansas area? If yes... have you been on the "Sky Line drive" near there? I haul Engineers and conductors to-and-from their trains for K.C.S. railroad around that area. (anywhere between K.C. Mo and Heavner Ok )
They keep encouraging me to come down from Kansas and check it out sometime on my bike. :)

The Mena area is where I've ridden and you definitely need to check it out.
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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby Sir Rides Alot » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:00 pm

Rednaxs60 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:44 pm
Weight is only an issue when not moving. Took my '85 LTD and '08 1800 over the scales. Both weigh in at 924 lbs. Steel frame, less plastic, why the same don't know. Take your 1200 over a weigh scale and then take the 1500. Don't rely on the Honda stats, they can be incorrect.

It has been mentioned to take an advance riding course, best value for your dollar then practice. Will enhance you riding considerably. Here is a video of the instructor from the course I took. I go back for a tuneup every year.

The video was very inspirational. Even after riding bikes my entire life, an old bird like me can still learn a skill or two. Thanks! ;)

NVSB4 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:17 pm
The Mena area is where I've ridden and you definitely need to check it out.


I most certainly will. If you haven't been to "Eureka Springs Arkansas" yet, up in the North West corner of Arkansas, I highly recommend it as well. ;)
( Proud new owner of a 1996 S.E. 1500 ) :D
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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:03 pm

You will also get this itch to go "somewheres". Throw some clothes in a bag and go see "something".
But don't make the same mistake I made. Be sure to pack socks and underwear or you'll be visiting Wal-Mart too. :lol:
On the plus side, I've got all brand new socks and undies! :D
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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby Sir Rides Alot » Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:13 pm

UPDATE:

I now have my newer bike and so far I lOve it!! :)
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Yeah.... I'm a little heavy these days but thank goodness this 1996 S.E. has 6 cylinders lol. :D
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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby NVSB4 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:10 pm

Sir Rides Alot wrote:UPDATE: I now have my newer bike and so far I lOve it!! :)


Yeah, it's a good looking bike and I do like the Corbin seat, especially the two-tone on the white.
You know that this is just a starting point. You'll find new ways of making it yours in no time. :D
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Postby kane67 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:54 am

Congrats!

Good looking bike, I like the color a lot 8-)

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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:36 pm

Good looking bike. :D
I like the white color but my wife's favorite color is red. Guess what color my bike is? Yeah...that's right. :lol:
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Postby Happytrails » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:51 pm

Good looking bike, congrats! :D
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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby Winston's Chiefs » Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:42 am

Got my first wing a gl 1500 se 1996, been a life long Harley rider from sportsters to deckers and I love my 96 that I got about 4 months ago. Handles so much better then any of the Deckers I have had and have no problems of throwing it thru the twisty roads here in the southern BC interior mountains. My wife and I ride together all the time and I ride everyday and are really enjoying the bike.
I am 6' and 160 lbs and the weight does not bother me in fact I love how it handles the rain and twisty roads so well, my only complaint about the bike is the front steering geometry at very low speeds causes the front end to flop over suddenly. I had been told that they corrected this by changing the geometry slightly half way thru the year to make it better. Other then this one thing I absolutely love the bike, will still continue to love my Panhead but that's a whole different beast. Going to put a small steering damper on to hopefully eliminate this problem.
Enjoy your bike it looks great.

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Postby Happytrails » Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:04 am

Winston's Chiefs wrote:... at very low speeds causes the front end to flop over suddenly.


Heavier cruisers and touring bikes will like to flop over to full lock when riding slow/parking lot speeds. If you run at least 40psi in your front tire it will help out a bunch. On my wing I run 42psi front/43psi rear and that feels like the sweet spot for the way I like to ride. I can tell when the front tire pressure starts to get a couple psi lower on air as the bike will start to want to flop in slightly more. I end up checking my tire pressures a lot because of this and its probably a good thing. I'm not noticing any harshness at this pressure. I'm guessing that Honda suggests 36psi up front for a nice cushy ride from there premium touring bike. :D
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Postby Winston's Chiefs » Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:32 pm

Never had this problem with my other bikes, other then the 6" over raked pan chopper. It's not a big deal at all more just an observation. Will have to try the tire pressure check and see if changing it helps at all and if not I will maybe put on a small dampener.
Love the bike and look forward to many years of riding it.

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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby BikerBuck » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:03 am

To Winston's Chief, you might want to try the Blackwing forkbrace. I was also somewhat spooked by the slow speed handling until I installed the Blackwing. It was the best $50.00 i have spent. It really did make a difference.

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Re: Trading up 1985 Aspencade for 1996 S.E.

Postby Winston's Chiefs » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:07 am

Thanks for the info BikerBuck.
Like I said not really a big deal but I will probably install one this winter when I go to repaint and remove some unnecessary extra weight, ie:old stereo system, CB and intercom systems and a few other small weight loss items.
I tend to ride it like a 350lb sport bike here in the Rockies and am enjoying it every minute. Compared to my 2000 95" Road King it is night and day difference I can comfortably nail the Wing into the corners and not worry about high speed wobbles and poor handling like the RK has.




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