Replacing my Goldwing


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Replacing my Goldwing

Postby GillesGLW » Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:57 pm



Hi everyone,
Greetings from Switzerland!

This time I'm coming with a funny idea in mind. I recently went to see my local dealer who has an Electra Glide from 1991 to sell.
It's an HD, I know, but after a short ride, I have to admit that it's quite a nice bike....

So here is my question, is there anyone here who went from a Goldwing 1500 to an Electra Glide 1340? Or from an Electra Glide to a Goldwing?
What was/were the reason(s) to move? Pros/cons?

I'm specifically looking for a rider who has/had a 1500 and a 1340... not a 1800 or a more recent HD.

Many thanks!
Gilles



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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby hugger-4641 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:49 pm

Hmm... I didn't buy it, but I did ride a 93 electra glide and a 96 ultra classic around the time I bought my wing. You are going to be hard pressed to find anyone who went from Goldwing back to a Harley, there may be a few, but they wont be on this forum, so here's my observation.

HD has:
no cruise
no air suspension
no reverse
no on board headlight adjustment.
no on board windshield adjustment.
no radio unless it was added.
no intercom unless it was added.
less storage in the trunk and side bags.
no water cooled engine, air cooled means uncomfortable to idle around on, and vapor locking in hot whether.
no shaft draft, belt drive means replacing and adjusting often.
side draft intake does not like hard rain, can suck in water and start sputtering.

Both Harley's were lighter, a little easier to hold up, and the engine torque made it almost impossible to stall out when taking off, but other than that, I found nothing about the HD that made me want to get off my Wing. 8-)

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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby FM-USA » Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:29 am

"You don't buy yourself a HD to be SATISFIED,
you buy it to keep your HD friends PACIFIED."

If you don't have that HD IMAGE, no HD friends.
. . That's written in many HD club rules. No HD? Can't join.
MAN-O-MAN, talk about discrimination. :?

Speaking of IMAGE... (a picture)
That's all you have to show that you do have a HD, it's always in the shop. :roll:
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Year ago we ran into our 'X' President of the Wing group we were with (but no more) and he said he just bought a HD.
With my fingers I put up the 'Sign of the Cross' and backed up. Ya, we laughed but I had to ask why.
He said so they can get into the group rides with his friends.
THAT!!!+! is pathetic. :roll:
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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby joeincalif » Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:00 am

Back in about 92 my friend went from a 88 wing to a new HD ultra. He and his wife both loved it. She said it as the best riding bike she had ever been on. And they have rode all of their lives. In 94 when we went to Wing Ding he traded it in on a new 94 Wing. Said he couldn't go to Wing Ding on a Harlery. The HD had 50,000 miles on it in just 2 years, they gave him almost nothing for it, said at 50,000 the lower gaskets were starting to leaks and the motor had to be torn down to fix it.
Harley got a bad rap in the 60's when AMF took them over. But when you go out for a ride look around ans see what you see on the road. Probably 100 Harleys to 1 Gold Wing. Ride what you like and feel good on.
Oh, his last 7 bikes were BMW'S
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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby raven41951 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:11 am

When I was considering trading up from my 95 Shadow ACE, basically a HD wannabe, I rode a friends 05 Street Glide. Nice bike and I was tempted. Then I rode a new '13 Indian Cheiftan and '13 F6B. The result was confusion, but the HD was in a distant 3rd place.

I eventually decided to move up to a used wing until I could make up my mind. I decided to, and bought a 1500. That was three years ago. Its really all the bike I need but I like the bagger style of the F6B and the bells and whistles of the Wing.

Sometime in the future I will switch to an 1800 and get the bagger conversion kit for it which makes the bubble removeable. Until then, HD is something I drive past.

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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby GillesGLW » Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:54 pm

Thanks for your replies!

As I can read, appart from the social aspect of riding a HD, there is not much more to say about owning one!
From what I can read, even if I buy the latest Electra Glide (no way I will do that... too expensive!) I will still miss the features from a Goldwing produced in 1989....

I can't imagine such a heavy bike without a reverse... I wonder how the HD guys manage that with their Electra Glides.... :D

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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby hugger-4641 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:40 pm

GillesGLW wrote:Thanks for your replies!

As I can read, appart from the social aspect of riding a HD, there is not much more to say about owning one!
From what I can read, even if I buy the latest Electra Glide (no way I will do that... too expensive!) I will still miss the features from a Goldwing produced in 1989....

I can't imagine such a heavy bike without a reverse... I wonder how the HD guys manage that with their Electra Glides.... :D


Most that I know get in habit of rolling backwards into parking spaces so they don't have to try to push backwards. When they get tired of this, they go to a trike and have reverse added. 8-)

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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby GillesGLW » Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:54 pm

God bless the engineer who put the reverse on the Goldwing!!!!!

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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby offcenter » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:42 am

GillesGLW wrote:God bless the engineer who put the reverse on the Goldwing!!!!!


You can say THAT again!!!
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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby FM-USA » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:48 am

offcenter wrote:
GillesGLW wrote:God bless the engineer who put the reverse on the Goldwing!!!!!


You can say THAT again!!!

When in prototype, probably was a little Japanese guy who tip-toed it backwards. :)
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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby GillesGLW » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:34 pm

LOL!
That must be it!

This afternoon I took some time to sit and watch my bike. I was thinking why I wanted to change it and I figured out that the reason was simple. Over the last 2 years, I spent the price of the bike in accessories and OEM parts, trying to make it look like it was went it left the factory.
I think I'm now done, and I even went a bit further improving some of the parts that were not available in 1989 such as braided lines for the brakes or leds.
Anyway, since 2014, I've been spending so much time repairing it than it became a kind of normal way to enjoy my Goldwing. Now I think it's time to ride it and let it decide where to go, instead of sitting on a lift.

Back to the Harley stuff, I saw 2 Electra Glides today. I figured out that they were nice, but not as cool as my Goldwing. Less chrome, less noise, but something more "authentic" with a Goldwing. Hard to tell what, but something I like.

Now it's time for me to start living my "american dream" on the road of Switzerland with my Wing! :D

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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby themainviking » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:41 pm

GillesGLW wrote:Now it's time for me to start living my "american dream" on the road of Switzerland with my Wing! :D


Bout time you got to that point..... :lol:
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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby GillesGLW » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:54 pm

you know... we are not fast in Switzerland.... :D

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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby FM-USA » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:02 pm

GillesGLW wrote:you know... we are not fast in Switzerland.... :D

All the better to savior the views. ;)
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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby GillesGLW » Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:41 pm

I had my first ride today after a few months with the bike on the lift!

What a good time! The bike was running smooth without any major issue. I have just noticed that the left/rear break was too soft, and the bike will go back on the lift this weekend. I really have to push hard to get some response from the break. I have installed braided lines and have refurbished both master cylinder and brakes. So maybe some air is still in the braided lines.

But I guess if there was still air, I wouldn't get any response from the brake. To be confirmed....

Maybe the stroke of the lever is just to big, ideally I would love to get some response from the brake as soon as I start pushing with my feet.

Let's see what I will find this weekend...

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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby FM-USA » Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:54 pm

GillesGLW wrote:I have just noticed that the left/rear break was too soft, and the bike will go back on the lift this weekend. I really have to push hard to get some response from the break.

I installed new F & R pads couple weeks ago and HAD a hard pedal but a few days after replacement, I have a soft pedal like yours.
WHEN it cools here (heat index 100+), I'll bleed the brakes again since micro bubbles congealed into large ones, takes time for that to happen.
GLAD TO HEAR it's running smooOOOooth.
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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby GillesGLW » Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:19 pm

Thanks for your help, I will bleed them again.

Yes, now the bike is as smooth as a Goldwing should be. When I bought it, it was more like a HD, now it's a real Goldwing! :D

I should receive soon my led headlights from socalmoto, then the bike will be done. No more modification... never... or maybe just a few things here and there... ;) ;)

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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby FM-USA » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:12 pm

GillesGLW wrote:Thanks for your help, I will bleed them again.

Yes, now the bike is as smooth as a Goldwing should be. When I bought it, it was more like a HD, now it's a real Goldwing! :D

I should receive soon my led headlights from socalmoto, then the bike will be done. No more modification... never... or maybe just a few things here and there... ;) ;)

ALWAYS one more thing.

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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby GillesGLW » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:52 am

Can I have it in blue?

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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby GillesGLW » Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:16 am

While I'm preparing the Goldwing to access the brakes to bleed them, I remember a song from Leona Lewis where the chorus was "... keep bleeding, keep keep bleeding..."

Not sure she had a problem with her Goldwing, but as of today, this song is officially mine! :D :D :D

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Re: Replacing my Goldwing

Postby FM-USA » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:36 am

GillesGLW wrote:While I'm preparing the Goldwing to access the brakes to bleed them, I remember a song from Leona Lewis where the chorus was "... keep bleeding, keep keep bleeding..."

Not sure she had a problem with her Goldwing, but as of today, this song is officially mine! :D :D :D

now THAT'S funny.

- - - how's this? - - -

bleed bleed bleed its life away
do it over and over they all say
don't quibble with Sybille or you'll get crippled
the only stipple is you open her nipple
make her flow steady and pure not a drizzle
hose'r hose or she'll dribble dribble dribble

:D


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Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.


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