Cant Get bike out of gear


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Cant Get bike out of gear

Postby guitarzan » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:40 pm



Hi,
I've lubed my final drive and drive shaft and I still have a few more things to do, but I had the bike in neutral and with the bike off ( I cant turn it on at this time) and now I cant get it in neutral. I pull the clutch in and even turn the rear wheel and it wont go out of gear? It was kind of hard to turn the rear wheel when it was in neutral. I hate to get everything back to together and have to take it all apart again.

Any Ideas?

Thanks
Frank



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Re: Cant Get bike out of gear

Postby FM-USA » Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:00 pm

guitarzan wrote:Hi,
I've lubed my final drive and drive shaft and I still have a few more things to do, but I had the bike in neutral and with the bike off ( I cant turn it on at this time) and now I cant get it in neutral. I pull the clutch in and even turn the rear wheel and it wont go out of gear? It was kind of hard to turn the rear wheel when it was in neutral. I hate to get everything back to together and have to take it all apart again.

Any Ideas?

Thanks
Frank

Drive Shaft lube... did you leave a wrench in the shafts tube? jok'n of coarse
Reassembling the rear wheel, spacer and brake plate correct?
Brake support arm in the shock bolt correct?
hummmm, thinking on other possibilities... (I'm tired, rode 20 hard hrs yesterday, feels like jet-lag)
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Re: Cant Get bike out of gear

Postby guitarzan » Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:10 pm

I don't know! I'm stumped.

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Re: Cant Get bike out of gear

Postby FM-USA » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:06 pm

guitarzan wrote:I don't know! I'm stumped.

Guess it's time to take some pix of the rear axle, mainly left side. Same for rear caliper mount.
May as well take a shot of the rear right side also, towards the axle that you can't see inside the hub.

You know for sure you got the drive shaft in the U-joint? Another member had a DICKENS of a time trying to stab the drive shaft.
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Re: Cant Get bike out of gear

Postby guitarzan » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:45 pm

Here are the pictures of the rear wheel, axle, and brake. How would that stop me from putting the bike in neutral? Now tomorrow I'm going to take the rear break caliper off and see if the wheel turns any easier.

Even with the clutch pulled in all the way the rear wheel is still hard to turn and I cant get the bike back in neutral.

I'll give an update after I take the rear brake caliper off. I don't understand why when I took it out of neutral.
Rear Left Axle
Rear Left Axle
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Rear brake caliper rear view
Rear brake caliper rear view
Rear brake caliper from side
Rear brake caliper from side
Rear right axle
Rear right axle
Rear view of final drive
Rear view of final drive
Shifter pivot brace
Shifter pivot brace
Bike is pretty dissembled right now!
Bike is pretty dissembled right now!

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Re: Cant Get bike out of gear

Postby guitarzan » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:12 pm

I want to thank everyone who gave me advice on my problem. I am rebuilding the rear caliper and it needed it after looking at it again. What the problem was and Cliff had mentioned this in his installation video for the shifter brace. He said that the surface of the crash guard where the bolt goes in must be square and flat with the bracket or the shifter will bind. Well I took the shifter brace off and it shifts fine now. So I have my crash guard off and I'm going to try filing it down by hand so its flat.

I should have tried that first, but I knew my work was infallible, or so I thought. Thank you Cliff for putting that in the video I just wish I would have checked that first. :oops:

Thank you all and may you all stay safe.

Frank

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Re: Cant Get bike out of gear

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:59 pm

When I first read your post, I was going to ask about a shift brace, but you didn't list it as an item you had installed during your maintenance. Another poster, a while back, had a similar issue, and I clued him in to it because I had an issue while installing mine. Glad you found it. I was curious. Everything on that brace has to be checked, tight, clear of obstruction, and smooth as glass for the shifter to operate properly, as a few of us now know. Once it's good, it's good.




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