Noisy shift from first to second


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RobertH
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Noisy shift from first to second

Postby RobertH » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:05 pm



Just bought an 1989 Gold Wing and love it. I was wondering if shifting from first up to second was normal to be noisy (almost ratchity). I've tried different RPM's and being sure my clutch in all the way in but on a regular basis it's a noisy upshift, loud click and and sometimes a ratcheting noise - any adjustments I should know about?



happy_george
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Re: Noisy shift from first to second

Postby happy_george » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:23 am

Six months ago I bought a 94, and have the same problem. Most of the time I get kind of a double click, sometimes it sounds almost like the sincro’s are out and it is just missing the gear. But occasionally it is as smooth as silk. Most of the time if I accelerate fast to about 4500 RPM, then sift, it shifts smooth. If someone could explain this it would probably help both of us.

RobertH
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Re: Noisy shift from first to second

Postby RobertH » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:35 am

Your explaination is very simular to mine. Haven't tried 4500 rpm shifting. I have read that this is the "nature of the beast" and to be firm and distinct in your shifting and harder shoe helps. We'll see if anyone else can help us out.

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Re: Noisy shift from first to second

Postby gogs11uk » Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:59 pm

I think you will find the noisy cluncky gearchange is very commonplace on the wing. My 88 1500 was eactly the same. Occassionally it would change smooth but it seemed to be if i was in a certian rev range which was very small. I alays tried to change aroung 2500 to 300 revs but this proved to be quite noisy in the change but I found that changing just above or below this range was quieter. i also found that if I took my time changing the gear it appeared to be smoother. i was almost exagerating the gearchange process to its extremes but it worked for me. Seems to work for me on my 1800 as well. The slower the gearchange the smooter it is.

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joshellison
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Re: Noisy shift from first to second

Postby joshellison » Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:47 pm

I have a '02 GL1800A and have the same thing happening to mine. It almost appears that the clank from first to second is the sound of the gears wanting to explode. That may be a little exaggerated but it is not what I would think is normal. My GL1800A is the only GW I have ever ridden so I don't know what normal really is. I have also noticed that the shift from first to second sometimes results in a shift to neutral position like it does not make it all the way. There are times that the noise and clunk feel is non-existent. Very interesting situation for a bike that is built so well to have this "common" situation across so many bikes.

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Re: Noisy shift from first to second

Postby happy_george » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:51 am

I also have noticed that when I’m shifting from first to second I occasionally end up shifting into neutral. I just read that the 1100's and 1200's have the same problem.

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Re: Noisy shift from first to second

Postby jimac » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:51 am

Just in case anyone thinks that this is common to all Goldwings I'd just like to point out that neither my '83 1100 or my '93 1500 have this problem. The shifts are smooth and quiet.

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Re: Noisy shift from first to second

Postby dingdong » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:24 am

I have found that my 93 and my 76 shifts hard when I use 10/40 motor oil, which is recommended. It gets pretty hot here in Oklahoma in the summer so I use 20/50 most of the time. With the 20/50 she shifts very smooth and quiet. No clunk at all. I just changed over to Delo 400 15/40 with the 93 but haven't ridden yet so I don't know how she shifts with this weight.
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joshellison
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Re: Noisy shift from first to second

Postby joshellison » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:15 pm

jimac wrote:Just in case anyone thinks that this is common to all Goldwings I'd just like to point out that neither my '83 1100 or my '93 1500 have this problem. The shifts are smooth and quiet.


I have heard so many people make the comment about clunky shifting which is why I mentioned "common". I am glad to hear that some shift smooth. What kind of motor oil is being used in the smooth shifting and what kind in the clunky shifting? I live in Hawaii and use the recommended Honda 10-40 and it is pretty noticeable shifting from first to second gear.

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Re: Noisy shift from first to second

Postby jimac » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:18 pm

I've only had the 1500 for about 6 weeks so I haven't changed the oil yet. But as I bought it, fully serviced, from a dealer I doubt it has anything other than the recommended 10/40 in it. The 1100 definitely has 10/40 in it. The 1500 has 34,000 miles on it and the 1100 has 62,000 miles.

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Re: Noisy shift from first to second

Postby toyman5411 » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:31 pm

My 93se does the same.. this is common on all 1500s and early 1800s no worrys. the tranny is indestructable. actually the quiet shifting bikes are the unusual ones. seems wierd but this is true.




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