Starting it up


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Starting it up

Post by jdavidsmit » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:32 am



Been awhile since I have been here, major health issues. after doing all the maintenance from her setting almost a full year. I have now ran into something I know very little about. The problem is she will only start in neutral, I have taken the clutch switch out and cleaned it all up but still no go.
is there another switch I don't know about?


David

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Re: Starting it up

Post by MikeB » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:11 pm

Once it is running, when you put it in gear does it die? If so, the side stand switch is probably the culprit. If it continues to run then you can pretty much rule out the side stand switch.

Do you have aftermarket grips, like the Kuryakyn ISO grips? If you do, they may be preventing the clutch lever from coming all the way it and engaging the switch to allow it to start. Pull the clutch lever all the way. You should be able to hear a click as the switch engages. If no click and you do not have hearing issues, then it is either the switch or the brass pivot bushing for the clutch. To see if it is the switch, you can do a continuity test of the switch. You said that you had it out and cleaned it right? Did you test it to see if it worked when you depressed it?
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Re: Starting it up

Post by jdavidsmit » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:26 am

It starts and runs fine, road it a bit yesterday no problems. I did check the switch and it was working as it should.
I'm wondering if there is a bad wire some place I need to trace out.
As I said it will only start in neutral, but once started everything is normal.
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Re: Starting it up

Post by Yellowdog » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:45 pm

As far as I am aware the 1500's will only start in neutral,if it's in gear even with the clutch lever pulled in it is not meant to start .

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Re: Starting it up

Post by Corkster52 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:42 pm

I think Yellowdog is correct. I have never started either my 1500s in anything but neutral.
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Re: Starting it up

Post by MikeB » Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:53 pm

The GL1500 will start in gear as long as the side stand is up.
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Re: Starting it up

Post by Bluewaterhooker0 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:21 pm

+1
Have restarted mine many times, in gear, side stand up, clutch pulled all the way to the grip.

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Re: Starting it up

Post by dingdong » Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:53 pm

Bluewaterhooker0 wrote:+1
Have restarted mine many times, in gear, side stand up, clutch pulled all the way to the grip.
Ditto. Doesn't help with your problem but............
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Re: Starting it up

Post by Corkster52 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 4:36 pm

Hmm. Didn't know that.

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Re: Starting it up

Post by Yellowdog » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:04 am

Got to go and try now,lol
Last time out I stalled at the traffic lights ,it was a pain to try and find neutral to restart with a load of impatient cars behind me.

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Re: Starting it up

Post by Yellowdog » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:29 am

Just tried to start it in gear ,won't start ,doesn't do anything at all until it's in neutral.

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Re: Starting it up

Post by aj1500 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:30 am

yellowdog, sounds like you have the same problem as the OP
mine will start in gear as long as the clutch is pulled,
I agree it sounds like an issue with either the clutch switch or in wiring after the switch
do you have voltage coming up to the switch, and then crossing through when you pull the lever

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Re: Starting it up

Post by MikeB » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:55 am

Do this test... No tools needed yet.

Slowly pull the clutch lever all the way to the hand grip.

You should hear two clicks. One as soon as you start to pull the lever and the second as you get within a few millimeters of the hand grip.

The first click is the Cruise disengage switch activating.

The second click is the start enable switch activating.

If you do not hear the second click and you do not have hearing issues, then it is either the switch or the brass pivot bushing for the clutch that needs attention.

To see if it is the switch, you can do a continuity test of the switch.

To see if it is the brass pivot bushing, remove the clutch lever and inspect the bushing.
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Re: Starting it up

Post by Bluewaterhooker0 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:54 pm

I've had issues on my right lever with both brake lights, and cruise control set, on different occasions. Both were due to inconsistencies in the manufacture of after market levers. They are not as precisely made as OEM. So, if your levers are after market, that's one more possibility.

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Re: Starting it up

Post by jdavidsmit » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:52 pm

Mine has always started in gear with the clutch pulled in all the way. Just started this issue.
got me wondering did I clean and check the correct switch. the top one is the one I worked on. need to go find my manual and check it out.
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Re: Starting it up

Post by Bluewaterhooker0 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:20 pm

jdavidsmit wrote:Mine has always started in gear with the clutch pulled in all the way. Just started this issue.
got me wondering did I clean and check the correct switch. the top one is the one I worked on. need to go find my manual and check it out.
Since you've been into it far enough to clean the switch, or at least you think the correct switch....Why not just connect the 2 wires from the switch, and see if it starts. That switch is closed when the lever is pulled in, so shorting those wires to each other should duplicate a closed switch and possibly answer your question about the switch operation. If it still won't start in gear, your problem likely lies elsewhere. Be sure your side stand is up, and the bike is in gear.
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Re: Starting it up

Post by jdavidsmit » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:57 am

Checked things again this morning, something to do while its raining, anyway pulled the wires off the switch and jumped them, bike in gear, kick stand up, and it started right up. put the wires back on, kick stand up, in gear clutch pulled all the way and it started right up. did it 5 time and no problem each time. maybe some corrosion inside the wire terminals and taking it off and on was enough to clean them up. think I will pick up a new tube of electric grease and put some on it.
but right now its working.
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Re: Starting it up

Post by MikeB » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:03 am

I'm glad you got it working like it is supposed to. Good job.
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Re: Starting it up

Post by Bluewaterhooker0 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:03 pm

jdavidsmit wrote:Checked things again this morning, something to do while its raining, anyway pulled the wires off the switch and jumped them, bike in gear, kick stand up, and it started right up. put the wires back on, kick stand up, in gear clutch pulled all the way and it started right up. did it 5 time and no problem each time. maybe some corrosion inside the wire terminals and taking it off and on was enough to clean them up. think I will pick up a new tube of electric grease and put some on it.
but right now its working.
If removing and replacing the wires to the clutch switch is all you did, and the problem went away, and there is no obvious corrosion at those terminals or wires, I'd be inclined to replace what may be an intermittent clutch switch. It is more likely you got the switch working from handling it and possibly working it or checking its operation, than corrosion, if there is no visible corrosion at the contact points. If that's the case, the switch will likely fail again, and that's not a pricey switch.

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Re: Starting it up

Post by Yellowdog » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:04 pm

Well I think I figured out why my 1500 won't start in gear,I thought I try to do what Mike b said and take the clutch lever off and clean contacts etc,I didn't even get to use the screwdriver when I noticed that the ends of the clutch lever housing are broken off exposing the brass bushing hence no contact is being made .
Doesn't look like it can be fixed and not worth the expense of replacing the whole housing unit.



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