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Post by josefkrnavek » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:28 pm



my front wheel follows every crack in the surface...after driving sport touring bikes for years this scares me..is it common for goldwing 1500 se?



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front end issue

Post by josefkrnavek » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:59 pm

just got my first golwing gl 1500 and i love it but my front wheel follows every crack and line on the road especially low speed.feel very unstable and dangerous.Never had that problem with my sport touring bikes

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Re: front end issue

Post by Erdeniz Umman » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:46 pm

josefkrnavek wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:59 pm
just got my first golwing gl 1500 and i love it but my front wheel follows every crack and line on the road especially low speed.feel very unstable and dangerous.Never had that problem with my sport touring bikes
So, is it a question or an observation?

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Re: front end issue

Post by josefkrnavek » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:21 pm

question....sorry
just asking about quick fix or recommendation before i get in to replacing ball berings, shock,fork braces etc....

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Re: front end issue

Post by Bluewaterhooker0 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:23 pm

From what I have read, that seems to be a characteristic of tire brands, and tread patterns. I use the OEM K177 tires and don't notice that to be a particular issue with my tires. But, I have heard mention of some brands being prone to follow 'tar snakes' more than others. Mine, when noticeable, is on concrete grooved pavement. Then I do get a bit of wandering. I'm not sure any tire can avoid that.

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Re: front end issue

Post by MikeB » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:09 pm

Also with the K177, going over grated bridges can be real exciting. The Dunlop Elite II's were just as bad.

When I changed to the Avon's bias plys for the GL1500, the grated bridges were much tamer.

With the GL1800, the grated bridges are always very manageable since the GL1800 uses radial tires.
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Re: front end issue

Post by Happytrails » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:21 pm

Grooved and tar/chipped roads that they love to do in this area can be lots of fun especially when its windy. The bike heads off in all kinds of directions.

1500's are so heavy (sport tourers weiging in around 750'ish lbs maybe? while a 1500 weighs closer to 1000lbs) that they really squish the heck out of the tires. If your running too low an air pressure it will contribute to tires following tar snakes and cracks in the road. A lot of the times the bike goes where it wants particularly when going slowly to and you have to manuever it back on line. I rarely experienced this on any other bike but it seems like a characteristic of bigger bikes.

I didn't have my E3's very long but I hear they love to follow tar snakes. The avons (Venoms and now Cobras) I've been riding on are very neutral and they ignore all but the worst tar snakes.
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Re: front end

Post by themainviking » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:10 am

I believe it may be tire related. Do you have a center groove right down the middle of your tire? I think this type of tire follows grooves and tar snakes worse than tires that have no center groove. The groove is great for rain shed, but it does cause concern when it tracks.
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Re: front end issue

Post by dingdong » Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:07 am

You need to run a minimum of 40 lbs in the front and 41 / 42 in the rear tire. What brand tires do you have? Low speed instability (parking lot speed) on the 1500 is just how it goes. Definitely not a sport bike.
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Re: front end

Post by ogremlin » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:09 am

same problem with mine,
thinking is a gl1500 problem from added weight of being 6cyc,
just got my old wing still working on all the problems it has,

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Re: front end

Post by minimac » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:35 am

Tire design, wear, air pressure-these things all need to be checked, as well as the condition of the steering head bearings. My 1500 doesn't wander, even on grooved pavement. It's not a problem that all 1500s experience.

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Re: front end

Post by ogremlin » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:01 am

Ty I will work on all of that

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Re: front end

Post by aj1500 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:43 am

I agree with the above, also keep in mind the rear tire can play a role in chasing grooves and tar snakes

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Re: front end

Post by ogremlin » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:39 pm

I have many things to do to this old bike front forks,front brakes,wheel bearings, head bearing put stock foot controls on it if I can find them,
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Re: front end

Post by bhulse » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:01 pm

The 'primary' cause is inflation pressure of the front wheel. Make absolutely certain it's up and you're not running it soft just for a more comfortable ride. Under-inflated front tires WILL 'fall off' tar snakes whereas properly inflated fronts will climb up and cross over with less drama the raised sections of the tar snake repairs that are so prevalant now.



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