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1500 screws

Post by hap2 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:17 pm



Are the two teeny-weenie OEM screws holding the clutch master cylinder cover on a Philips head?

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Re: 1500 screws

Post by Mh434 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:01 pm

Nope - they're JIS head screws. While similar to a Phillips, the use of our normal Phillips screwdrivers may result in stripping out the heads of the screws, as they don't fit the heads accurately like JIS screwdrivers do.

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Re: 1500 screws

Post by hap2 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:29 am

So I have to go out & getta JIS screwdriver or at least a JIS bit? Why wud Honda make em like that?
Seems kinda nonsensical to me? Why not just use a Philips? Stupid anyway (IMHO anyway).

That's probly why one was stripped. Someone tried to loosen it with a Philips.

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Re: 1500 screws

Post by Mh434 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:04 am

The JIS screws are actually far superior to our garden-variety Phillips heads. The JIS screwdrivers fit the screw heads more precisely, and don't tend to round out the heads like our Phillips ones do.

So, it's actually the other way around - what we're used to is basically a poor cousin to the JIS standard...

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Re: 1500 screws

Post by runnerme » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:41 am

Think of it this way.
Canadians tend toward Robertson head screws, American toward Phillips head screws, and Japanese toward....JIS. I'm guessing that the J might stand for Japanese.

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Re: 1500 screws

Post by WingAdmin » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:45 pm

runnerme wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:41 am
Think of it this way.
Canadians tend toward Robertson head screws, American toward Phillips head screws, and Japanese toward....JIS. I'm guessing that the J might stand for Japanese.
JIS = Japanese Industrial Standard.

Philips are actually DESIGNED to cam out of the screw under torque, due to early 20th century engineering considerations of poor quality metal that don't really apply anymore. JIS is designed to stay in the screw and apply proper torque without destroying the screw.

You can read more about it here: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=20082

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Re: 1500 screws

Post by MikeB » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:32 pm

If all you have is a Phillips screwdriver, it will work. I have taken apart and reassembled many a Japanese manufactured item using only Phillips screwdrivers. It will work. It is just that a JIS screwdrivers fits JIS head screws much better.
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Re: 1500 screws

Post by gford » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:22 pm

You already have a JIC screwdriver. Its in the tool kit that came with the bike.

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Re: 1500 screws

Post by MikeB » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:53 pm

Good point. I had not thought about the tool set that came with the bike from the factory. But not everyone has that too set if they bought the bike used.
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Re: 1500 screws

Post by joeincalif » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:50 am

I have always a good phillips head screw driver. If you are going to replace them I would suggest an allen head
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Re: 1500 screws

Post by themainviking » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:24 am

hap2 wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:29 am
Why wud Honda make em like that? Seems kinda nonsensical to me? Why not just use a Philips? Stupid anyway (IMHO anyway).
Because Honda is a Japanese company, and JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) is a Japanese standardized system. In all likelyhood, Suzuki, Kawasaki and Yamaha also use JIS screws. Now the question that does beg an answer is, why does the North American Manufacturing of automobiles use a combination of Metric and SAE nuts and bolts in my truck, which was built in Kentucky? I need both metric and SAE tools and socket sets to work on it.
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Re: 1500 screws

Post by tirebuildersrule » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:36 pm

The use of both standard and metric is so annoying :twisted: If I work on my Toyota Tundra, I know its all metric, but the wifes Mustang is three differant sizes :o



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