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Relay wiring

Post by terryt » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:07 pm



Hi I'm looking at wiring up some spot lights and a digital volt meter through relays. on my 1989 wing. I am looking at taking a switched supply for the relay from the 5 amp ass terminal. but were can I get a 12v fused supply for the light from apart from a direct feed from the battery. Thanks



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Re: Relay wiring

Post by dingdong » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:12 pm

Have you posted in the correct section? You say 89. You signature reads 1979. This is the 1800 area ???
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Re: Relay wiring

Post by terryt » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:27 pm

dingdong wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:12 pm
Have you posted in the correct section? You say 89. You signature reads 1979. This is the 1800 area ???
Yes it is a gl1500 and it posted in the gl1500 section thanks

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by dingdong » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:42 pm

Sorry I get confused easily.
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Re: Relay wiring

Post by virgilmobile » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:51 pm

I did use a ring connector direct from the battery post to my relay.Fused close to the battery.I also used a #12 wire.I didn't want to tax any circuit on the OEM wiring with a extra load.

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by terryt » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:59 pm

dingdong wrote:
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Sorry I get confused easily.
No worries I'm the same :)

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by terryt » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:03 pm

virgilmobile wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:51 pm
I did use a ring connector direct from the battery post to my relay.Fused close to the battery.I also used a #12 wire.I didn't want to tax any circuit on the OEM wiring with a extra load.
Thanks. yes i thought of that just wondered if there was a wire i could connect to that wasnt a pemanent live

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by virgilmobile » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:17 pm

Not one that's any easier to get to.

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by terryt » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:05 am

virgilmobile wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:17 pm
Not one that's any easier to get to.
Where would that one be

Can i take power from the live cable to the headlight switch

Thanks

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by Rednaxs60 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:24 am

Found this relay wiring diagram for driving lights. Be easy enough to piggy back a voltmeter into the system as well with a second switch. My preference whenever possible is to control the ground circuit for the item. This ensures full 12 VDC power to the item and no power loss through switches relays, etc.


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Re: Relay wiring

Post by terryt » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:35 pm

Rednaxs60 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:24 am
Found this relay wiring diagram for driving lights. Be easy enough to piggy back a voltmeter into the system as well with a second switch. My preference whenever possible is to control the ground circuit for the item. This ensures full 12 VDC power to the item and no power loss through switches relays, etc.

fog_lights.jpg

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Hi Thanks i have allready found and printed this off but was hoping to find a 12 volt ignition live feed.

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by terryt » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:39 pm

Trying to work out how to wire some lights on my 89 gl1500

can any one let me know what these are for. got the on both sides. thanks





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Re: Relay wiring

Post by AZgl1800 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:39 pm

Looks like the wires that go to the Curb turning lights...

on some bikes, they are only ON when the turn signals are on, dumb idea.

nearly everyone modifies to that to Always ON
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Re: Relay wiring

Post by terryt » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:13 pm

AZgl1800 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:39 pm
Looks like the wires that go to the Curb turning lights...

on some bikes, they are only ON when the turn signals are on, dumb idea.

nearly everyone modifies to that to Always ON
Hi. thanks is that the white plugs looks like they have never been used.

what are the green plugs for.

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by chads920 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:06 pm

Ref plugs, by removing the protective cap you can plug and play the cornering lights. The lights come with a jumper wire which allows the lights to come one with the ignition and remain on.
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Re: Relay wiring

Post by Charlie1Horse » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:10 pm

The white plug looks like cornering light connector. And the red plug, I think, is the connector for the headset plug.
I can't say about the green connector unless it is for the CB radio.
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Re: Relay wiring

Post by terryt » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:32 pm

Charlie1Horse wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:10 pm
The white plug looks like cornering light connector. And the red plug, I think, is the connector for the headset plug.
I can't say about the green connector unless it is for the CB radio.
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Hi I have been checking out these plus and yes the red plug is for headset. i diconected them front and back when I got the bike.
The green plug is for the side light of the fairing there's one each side. mine have been altered so the light goes of when the indicator is on. there is allso two green plugs at the back under the top box. I'm not sure what these would be for but they are on the light circuit

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by WingAdmin » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:01 am

With the way those spade terminals are jammed into that green plug, and left uninsulated, I'd say it was intended to vibrate out, cause a short, overheat, catch fire, and allow the owner to make an insurance claim.

Get those out of there! At the very least, secure and insulate them! But the correct thing to do would be to rip those out, and replace them with the correct male two-pin Hitachi connector, and wire those two wires into that connector. You can then plug that connector into the green one, and it will be secure and properly insulated.

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by terryt » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:00 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:01 am
With the way those spade terminals are jammed into that green plug, and left uninsulated, I'd say it was intended to vibrate out, cause a short, overheat, catch fire, and allow the owner to make an insurance claim.

Get those out of there! At the very least, secure and insulate them! But the correct thing to do would be to rip those out, and replace them with the correct male two-pin Hitachi connector, and wire those two wires into that connector. You can then plug that connector into the green one, and it will be secure and properly insulated.

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Hi Thanks. But there only test leads so i can work out the wiring out for the lights.

Ive got some 2 pin conector on order.

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by WingAdmin » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:09 pm

terryt wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:00 pm
WingAdmin wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:01 am
With the way those spade terminals are jammed into that green plug, and left uninsulated, I'd say it was intended to vibrate out, cause a short, overheat, catch fire, and allow the owner to make an insurance claim.

Get those out of there! At the very least, secure and insulate them! But the correct thing to do would be to rip those out, and replace them with the correct male two-pin Hitachi connector, and wire those two wires into that connector. You can then plug that connector into the green one, and it will be secure and properly insulated.

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Hi Thanks. But there only test leads so i can work out the wiring out for the lights.

Ive got some 2 pin conector on order.
Glad to hear it! :) When I first got my GL1500, I found bare wires jammed into the back of connectors in order to hook up auxiliary lights - nothing holding them there except luck. No insulation, nothing. With the crazy electrical work I have seen done on motorcycles, nothing surprises me anymore!

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by terryt » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:58 am

WingAdmin wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:09 pm
terryt wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:00 pm
WingAdmin wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:01 am
With the way those spade terminals are jammed into that green plug, and left uninsulated, I'd say it was intended to vibrate out, cause a short, overheat, catch fire, and allow the owner to make an insurance claim.

Get those out of there! At the very least, secure and insulate them! But the correct thing to do would be to rip those out, and replace them with the correct male two-pin Hitachi connector, and wire those two wires into that connector. You can then plug that connector into the green one, and it will be secure and properly insulated.

100_2357.JPG
Hi Thanks. But there only test leads so i can work out the wiring out for the lights.

Ive got some 2 pin conector on order.
Glad to hear it! :) When I first got my GL1500, I found bare wires jammed into the back of connectors in order to hook up auxiliary lights - nothing holding them there except luck. No insulation, nothing. With the crazy electrical work I have seen done on motorcycles, nothing surprises me anymore!
Thanks for your concern on this. I also have seen some bad wiring the one that springs to mind is a rear lights wiring done with table lamp flex and 2 core speaker wire.

Thats why i asked about wiring extra lights on my 1500. i decided to run a separate fuse box switched by a fused relay to feed lights.volt meter and usb charger.

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by Rednaxs60 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:52 am

Here's a site for you to browse about a 1500. Lots of good information to get you going. http://www.goldwingtech.info/auxwiring/ ... iring.html

I would recommend that instead of using a dimple crimp tool you use a ratcheting crimp tool. There are others as well, but that is for the eccentric people in us.

The reason I mention this is that a dimple crimp tool can/will damage the crimp terminal insulation. Using a dimple crimp tool on non-insulated crimp terminals is a better use for this type.

A good quality ratcheting crimp tool compresses the crimp terminal, does not squash it. These ratcheting crimp tools are also available with interchangeable crimp dies. A ratcheting crimp tool will do consistent crimps that can be almost waterproof and because of this do not need to be soldered.

Dimple Crimp Tool
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The dimple on the crimp tool jaw can damage the crimp terminal insulation rendering it ineffective. This is especially annoying if you use good quality crimp terminals, say with heat shrink, and have to redo the crimp.

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by AZgl1800 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:15 pm

I have thrown away all of my dimple crimp tools decades ago.

my Avocation was in communications, and we had to have a GAS TIGHT compression fitting and use shrink tubing over it, or solder it and shrink tubing

So, my Ratchet crimper is always in my tool bag.... had it for many decades, and it always works.
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Re: Relay wiring

Post by Rednaxs60 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:04 pm

The dimple/local hardware crimp tools do have a place, but I would relegate these to your tour kit as these do not take up a lot of space with the caveat that the repair be redone as soon as possible on return home.

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Re: Relay wiring

Post by MikeB » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:49 pm

Rednaxs60 wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:04 pm
The dimple/local hardware crimp tools do have a place, but I would relegate these to your tour kit as these do not take up a lot of space with the caveat that the repair be redone as soon as possible on return home.

Cheers
I have three or four of the dimple crimp style tools. They are handy for cutting small machine screws. I have one for Metric screws and one for Standard screws.
For crimping, I use a Thomas & Betts or a Panduit crimper.


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