Cornering light


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Cornering light

Post by jwebfournow » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:18 pm



Okay, have been trying to find a part number and were to purchase cornering light bulbs for my 1989 Wing, seen the articles for converting, I just want to keep it stock., pulled mine and I see that the bulbs are two filament bulbs, the sockets have one wire for power and one for ground, went also to some parts fiches from different sites
I just don't see a part number or even reference for them, maybe I am blind and just don't see them, any help out there? Also why would they put a two filament bulb in there when only one filament would work, seems kind of waste full if you think about it. Thanks



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Re: Cornering light

Post by terryt » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:55 pm

Found these on ebay bulb type B10-295
or. http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/corneri ... lb/83/3979

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Re: Cornering light

Post by wilmo » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:49 pm

You can use the other filament if it's still good. You can just solder across both terminals and that will light up the other side or, carefully remove the backing plate and rotate it 180. Cyclemax has the bulbs.

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Re: Cornering light

Post by joeincalif » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:13 am

Just urn the base around,
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Re: Cornering light

Post by jwebfournow » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:20 am

Gotta love out of the box thinking, I never thought of those suggestions, way to go. Thanks for the ideas. Guess I am still in the box! (LOL)

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Re: Cornering light

Post by Charlie1Horse » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:03 am

I don't like the idea of soldering across the terminals because that is more load on the alternator and battery that the rest of the bile really needs. I converted my cornering lights with the LED equivalent of 1157s and have the low power for "running lights" and then the high power comes on for cornering. It looks good and works very well. And to return to original "if I need to" I can just replace the bulb sockets and bulbs, and disconnect one extra wire.
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Re: Cornering light

Post by jwebfournow » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:27 pm



I found the lights from Show Chrome, they are on the way, I took a look at the base rotating idea figured it would take a mighty hot soldering iron to melt through the tiny spot welds. Could see where the soldering across the contacts would work, but one of my bulbs glass part was rotating in the socket, lets just say time to replace anyway. Gonna have to show a picture or two of this bike to see if anyone here might recognize it ,has a lot of graphics and custom paint don't know the original owners as I bought it from someone who purchased from an estate, original owners really loved this bike lots of chrome and goodies on it, but it has aged a but still looks pretty decent, purple neon light under rear bags and rear fender, ring of fire lights on front wheel along with other items, would be kind of interesting to find out the history, just my curiosity





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Re: Cornering light

Post by thrasherg » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:30 pm

Charlie1Horse wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:03 am
I don't like the idea of soldering across the terminals because that is more load on the alternator and battery that the rest of the bile really needs.
I think you misunderstood, he is only suggesting shorting the pins on the bulb that has a failed filament so the other filament lights up, there will be no extra load on the electric system You should NOT short the pins together if both filaments work as that will place a lot of extra load on the electrics.

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Re: Cornering light

Post by wilmo » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:31 pm

Yes that is correct. Only if one of the filaments is burnt. You can turn the base around if you tilt it slightly and press, no need to break the spot welds.

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Re: Cornering light

Post by DenverWinger » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:30 pm

thrasherg wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:30 pm
You should NOT short the pins together if both filaments work as that will place a lot of extra load on the electrics.
Gary
Not only that, but the incandescent bulbs get hot enough to start melting plastic, even with just a single filament on. If you've done the "always on" mod, best to use LED. I found the tops of the lenses melted in my '93 even without the mod. Now have 50watt equiv LEDs (from CycleMax) and always on. Lights up the side of the road very nicely at night.
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Re: Cornering light

Post by Charlie1Horse » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:49 pm

thrasherg wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:30 pm
Charlie1Horse wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:03 am
I don't like the idea of soldering across the terminals because that is more load on the alternator and battery that the rest of the bile really needs.
I think you misunderstood, he is only suggesting shorting the pins on the bulb that has a failed filament so the other filament lights up, there will be no extra load on the electric system You should NOT short the pins together if both filaments work as that will place a lot of extra load on the electrics.

Gary
But, if the high beam element burns out and then you solder across the contacts, the other (low beam) element will not be nearly as bright as the other one was. This bulb was intended for a high/low application. It has apparently been re-purposed from a off road four wheeler headlight to be used here and is why there is only one positive wire attached. One more reason why I modified mine to a dual purpose LED light.
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Re: Cornering light

Post by Uncle Fester » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:20 pm

Cyclemax also has a LED direct replacement set up, no cutting or anything else required, just plug and go. $25 each, so not too bad in price.

http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/50_watt ... /83/270155
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Re: Cornering light

Post by thrasherg » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:22 pm

Charlie1Horse wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:49 pm
thrasherg wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:30 pm
Charlie1Horse wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:03 am
I don't like the idea of soldering across the terminals because that is more load on the alternator and battery that the rest of the bile really needs.
I think you misunderstood, he is only suggesting shorting the pins on the bulb that has a failed filament so the other filament lights up, there will be no extra load on the electric system You should NOT short the pins together if both filaments work as that will place a lot of extra load on the electrics.

Gary
But, if the high beam element burns out and then you solder across the contacts, the other (low beam) element will not be nearly as bright as the other one was. This bulb was intended for a high/low application. It has apparently been re-purposed from a off road four wheeler headlight to be used here and is why there is only one positive wire attached. One more reason why I modified mine to a dual purpose LED light.
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I don’t think you are right, in a dual filament headlight you have a 60 watt main beam and a 55 watt dip beam, if you connect the other filament you still have 55 watts instead of 60 but that is still a very bright light, the difference is that the dip filament is not in the same location as the high beam filament so the light won’t be focused in the same place, but these are side lights not headlights so they are more for other motorist to see you than anything else. It will certainly not be as good as using the main filament but it should still give a very bright light and it saves you buying another bulb for a while.

Gary

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Re: Cornering light

Post by AZgl1800 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:53 pm

some of you are talking about the Cornering Light and others about the headlights:


the cornering light is the one you solder across the two contacts.
that lets the other, smaller filament burn when the brighter one burns out.

Cheap skates like to do that.... and the load on the system is slighter less than before.

For headlights, don't do that.... not a good idea.

but, FWIW, my low beam headlight is controlled by an oil pressure switch, so it is always on.

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Re: Cornering light

Post by thrasherg » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:12 am

I think if there is any confusion, it is just because the cornering lights use twin filament headlight bulbs. I think we are all talking about the cornering lights..

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Re: Cornering light

Post by jwebfournow » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:14 am

Received the new bulbs, installed, now have a bad relay, at times the one light comes on even though I switch the opposite turn signal, switched the relays from side to side and problem followed, you can tap the questionable relay and the light will go off, have another one coming just hope it is the correct one.

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Re: Cornering light

Post by Erdeniz Umman » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:46 pm

jwebfournow wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:14 am
Received the new bulbs, installed, now have a bad relay, at times the one light comes on even though I switch the opposite turn signal, switched the relays from side to side and problem followed, you can tap the questionable relay and the light will go off, have another one coming just hope it is the correct one.
I am trying to understand how your cornering lights work. On earlier models the cornering lights were set up so that only the one at the turning side would come on. That is why they are called cornering lights.

On later models, (probably after 97', not sure) both lights were set up so that they would both come on like running lights.

Also, some people have modified their cornering lights to function as running lights.

So, do your lights work like cornering lights or running lights? It may be important to troubleshoot correctly.

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Re: Cornering light

Post by jwebfournow » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:12 pm

My lights come on as individuals, right side turn signal right side cornering light...left side turn signal left side cornering

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Re: Cornering light

Post by Erdeniz Umman » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:26 pm

The relays of the cornering lights are Normally Closed types, that means when you turn on the signal to one side, the cornering light on that side will come on because the voltage going there is interrupted by the position light relay in the relay box (that is also NC type) and the turn signal switch.

You may want to download the wiring diagram to understand the system. The turn signal system is a little complicated on GL1500.

Here is a simplified diagram of the turn signal system (it is for 88 model but, similar to the other models).


And here is the lights wiring diagram for 89-92 models.



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Re: Cornering light

Post by jwebfournow » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:05 am

Thanks Erdeniz, it is great to have people like you on the forum that are able to shed light on problems we encounter with our bikes, going through manuals can be helpful but also talking with people who have experienced the same problems can be the most rewarding.



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