Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?


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Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by Shawn4245 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:35 pm



Hello everyone, I went searching today to find Delo 400le 15-40 and seems that is has been reformulated and is nolonger made, the new one seems to be SDE. So now what? My 88 1500, was super quiet on the delo400le, so I am a bit worried to just change to another formula, so what has everyone who loved the 400le switched to? and how is it working?

Doing a quck google search seems like chevron has lowered the zinc content as well as a few other additives, so the sde is really not the same, atleast that is what I am reading, but I just know my wing love the 400le!

Hope to find some advice here. Thanks Shawn



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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by Dusty Boots » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:15 pm

I switched over to Shell Rotella T 15W-40 as the Dello is getting very hard to find.
Seems to be very comparable

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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:24 pm

Dusty Boots wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:15 pm
I switched over to Shell Rotella T5 15W-40 as the Delo is getting very hard to find.
Seems to be very comparable
same here, it is in almost every gas station also as well as the wally world stores.
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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by joeincalif » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:56 pm

And if you want to go full synthetic use the Shell Rotella T6. Both work great in the 1500 and 1800 wing
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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by shomann » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:05 pm

Isn't is a mistake to use a full synthetic oil, or oil additives (clutch slippage) in a wet clutch bike? I've heard only use a motorcycle oil with the correct rating for wet clutch motorcycle manufacturer, unless your bike is one of the few (BMW's) to use a dry clutch.

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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by AZgl1800 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:01 am

shomann wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:05 pm
Isn't is a mistake to use a full synthetic oil, or oil additives (clutch slippage) in a wet clutch bike? I've heard only use a motorcycle oil with the correct rating for wet clutch motorcycle manufacturer, unless your bike is one of the few (BMW's) to use a dry clutch.
not if you do NOT use the types with Friction Modifiers.

I am using right now, Shell Rotella T6 in 5w40 weight, works great in my '02 1800.

last year, I used Shell Rotella T5 in 10w30 and it worked fine also, but I wanted the lighter weight oil for initial startup in my '02 because of the "possibility of shearing the ADG", or Alternator Drive Gear.

Some think, that cranking up the RPMs on initial start will shear that gear.
So, I went to a lighter weight "when cold" oil, and avoid touching the throttle when starting the bike.
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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:38 am

I have been using Mobil 1 High Mileage full synthetic (the High Mileage version does not have friction modifiers) for many years in my GL1500 and it works very well - the transmission shifts incredibly smoothly with it.

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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by Happytrails » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:48 pm

Wow I run that in my truck :D Maybe I should start using it for everything!
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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by Rednaxs60 » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:36 pm

shomann wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:05 pm
Isn't is a mistake to use a full synthetic oil, or oil additives (clutch slippage) in a wet clutch bike? I've heard only use a motorcycle oil with the correct rating for wet clutch motorcycle manufacturer, unless your bike is one of the few (BMW's) to use a dry clutch.
Check the API Donut. If there are energy conserving additives it will show in the lower half of the donut. Here is the donut, and yes it is called a donut, showing ilustrating that the oil has energy conserving additives - you do not want this oil:


This one has no indicators in the lower half and would be good for the GW:


Mobile 1 European formula has no friction reducing additives. Rotella T6 full synthetic comes in a blue jug and two variants. Make sure you read the label and ensure it has the JASO MA/MA2 rating and the API donut has nothing in the lower half.

Most oils today can be interchanged easily.

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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by shomann » Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:26 pm

Rednaxs60 wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:36 pm
shomann wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:05 pm
Isn't is a mistake to use a full synthetic oil, or oil additives (clutch slippage) in a wet clutch bike? I've heard only use a motorcycle oil with the correct rating for wet clutch motorcycle manufacturer, unless your bike is one of the few (BMW's) to use a dry clutch.
Check the API Donut. If there are energy conserving additives it will show in the lower half of the donut. Here is the donut, and yes it is called a donut, showing ilustrating that the oil has energy conserving additives - you do not want this oil:donut.jpgThis one has no indicators in the lower half and would be good for the GW:API-CK-4-Donut-non-energy.jpg

Mobile 1 European formula has no friction reducing additives. Rotella T6 full synthetic comes in a blue jug and two variants. Make sure you read the label and ensure it has the JASO MA/MA2 rating and the API donut has nothing in the lower half.

Most oils today can be interchanged easily.

Cheers
Great info! Thanks to everyone with their responses.

So the Rotella T6 sounds like a great product that saves some money over Mobil 1.
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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by Greenwinger » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:12 pm

Dusty Boots wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:15 pm
I switched over to Shell Rotella T 15W-40 as the Dello is getting very hard to find.
Seems to be very comparable
Hey Dusty, how's it going?? Isn't the 15 part a little thick for first starts in our cold Canadian climate??

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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by Dusty Boots » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:09 am

Greenwinger wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:12 pm
Dusty Boots wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:15 pm
I switched over to Shell Rotella T 15W-40 as the Dello is getting very hard to find.
Seems to be very comparable
Hey Dusty, how's it going?? Isn't the 15 part a little thick for first starts in our cold Canadian climate??

Hey Chuck!
I switched to using 15W-40 since I had 30,000 km on bike and at over 340,000 never had an issue with cold temp wear issues.
I switched to the 15W-40 Delo after trying the Rotella T6, which I tried twice ... 1st and last time. Couldn't wait to get that crap out of the bike. Worst oil I have ever tried. My friend had same results with the T6!!

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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by shomann » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:15 am

Dusty Boots wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:09 am
Greenwinger wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:12 pm
Dusty Boots wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:15 pm
I switched over to Shell Rotella T 15W-40 as the Dello is getting very hard to find.
Seems to be very comparable
Hey Dusty, how's it going?? Isn't the 15 part a little thick for first starts in our cold Canadian climate??

Hey Chuck!
I switched to using 15W-40 since I had 30,000 km on bike and at over 340,000 never had an issue with cold temp wear issues.
I switched to the 15W-40 Delo after trying the Rotella T6, which I tried twice ... 1st and last time. Couldn't wait to get that crap out of the bike. Worst oil I have ever tried. My friend had same results with the T6!!
What was the issue?

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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by Dusty Boots » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:57 pm

While all seemed fine for the 1st 2-300 mi after changing over to it in preparation of a trip, with smoother shifting/quieter engine at first, after 500 mi. into a tour, the engine became noisy and shifting very notchy. When I got to my location in Calhoun, GA, I couldn't wait to dump it. It was totally black, ran out like water and had a funny smell to it. :o
That's when I switched to the Delo and everything has been great since.
Because of it being hard to find the Delo now and because of my experience with the T6, I was very leery about trying the Rotella T, but so far, so good with the T!

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Re: Delo400le 15w-40 is gone, now what?

Post by AZgl1800 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:06 pm

I have never had a problem with "T" oils....

last year I used T5 in 10w30, this year I switched over to T6 in 5w40 and I cannot detect any difference at all in how it shifts.

I wanted the 5w oil weight to reduce any possible potential on shearing the Alternator Drive Gear at first start on a cold day. That is only a problem in the '01-'05 years. Not a guarantee it will happen, but it has occurred, I just wish to try and avoid it.


I think Ken's problem with it, was it worked like Sea Foam and cleansed the motor of all the varnish that was there... and once that was gone, he never had a problem again.


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