GL1500 won't start till starter button is released


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GL1500 won't start till starter button is released

Post by dand » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:20 am



I saw an article about the 1500s cranking and not firing till the starter button was released but can't find it in back issues. Can someone send me the article.



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Re: GL1500 won't start till starter button is released

Post by virgilmobile » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:44 am

There's plenty of posts about this.
Here's just one.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=35831&p=214230&hili ... ed#p214230
I had this problem with my 88 using (still) a WM flooded battery.
I did opt for the ignition modification.My voltage during cranking was about 1.3 volts lower at the coils than at the battery.Now it has full battery power at the coils when cranking.It made a difference.

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Re: GL1500 won't start till starter button is released

Post by joeincalif » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:25 am

How old is your battery? What you descries is a common sign of a weak battery,
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Re: GL1500 won't start till starter button is released

Post by virgilmobile » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:39 am

If your not sure about the battery,trickle charger it for a couple of days then take it and have it load tested.
Flooded batteries seem to hold up for 4 years if kept filled up and on a good battery tender.I recommend the battery tender Jr.
My 88 will crank but not start when the battery volts during cranking drop below 10 volts...this is the same voltage that shows up on the ignition module.
I tested this by running my battery low and watching the spark.It stopped sparking when it 9.9 volts.
You may find that you battery is staying above 10 volts and won't spark..this is due to voltage drop in the ignition wiring.If OEM wired,there can be up to a1.5 volt drop from the battery to the module/coils...That's The reason to have a really good battery or a ignition relay modification to keep the module voltage as high as the battery volts.

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Re: GL1500 won't start till starter button is released

Post by Elijah » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:14 am

When I press the tarter button on my 1988 goldwing 1500, I hear clicks and worst of all my Ground Cable on my Battery melts the Battery post. It only hapens when I press the starter button. Everything else works fine: Lights and all when I turn on the ignition switch, but when I press the starter button it clicks and causes my Ground Cable on my Battery to melt the Battery Cable. Help!!!! It just started doing that on its own.

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Re: GL1500 won't start till starter button is released

Post by virgilmobile » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:23 am

Hot ground cable.
Possible problems.
Starter locked up drawing a huge amount of power.
Engine seized locking the starter.
Corroded ground cable at the battery terminal.
First step...Remove both battery cables..ground first and then last on. Inspect for corrosion and really clean them and secure back tight to the cleaned battery post.
Bump the starter to see if it will try to crank the engine.

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Re: GL1500 won't start till starter button is released

Post by Erdeniz Umman » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:53 am

One more thing to consider is that your bike is a 1988 model and its start system and connections are different from later models.

Here is a diagram for your bike, to check the connections accordingly if you had done any maintenance or modification job recently.

Note that the starter motor has two connections, and the ground is coming from relay B ( while on later models relay B provides +12v to the starter).
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Re: GL1500 won't start till starter button is released

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:41 pm

Elijah wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:14 am
When I press the tarter button on my 1988 goldwing 1500, I hear clicks and worst of all my Ground Cable on my Battery melts the Battery post. It only hapens when I press the starter button. Everything else works fine: Lights and all when I turn on the ignition switch, but when I press the starter button it clicks and causes my Ground Cable on my Battery to melt the Battery Cable. Help!!!! It just started doing that on its own.
Heat = resistance. Resistances blocks current.

There's a fair chance you have either a bad ground cable, or a dirty ground connector on the battery or battery cable.

If the bad ground cable is not letting the full current through, or if there is dirt or contamination between the ground cable connector and the battery, it will create resistance. When you engage the starter, the resistance will cause it to heat up tremendously. It will also limit the amount of current getting through, which means there is not enough current to crank the starter - but it's still drawing a ton of current trying to crank.

Pull the ground cable off the battery, check it to make sure that it is in good shape, no breaks, corrosion, etc. Make sure it is connected directly to the battery terminal, with no other connectors in the middle. Clean everything with contact cleaner and a brush.

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Re: GL1500 won't start till starter button is released

Post by Elijah » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:11 pm

Thanks, the Bike is outside and it's starting to rain, thunder and so on, but I was able to do a Little checking but no enough. I'll wait until the rain stops. I was able to clean the cables and post on the Negative and Positive, and I did tap the Starter Button, but still just a click.



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