Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500


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Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby propasstoro » Mon May 30, 2011 6:41 am



Hello Fella's
I hope someone can help? I have a 1992 GL1500 which the cruise works very well and has no faults except it will not hold over 75/80 MPH, I have tried one of the changes in this forum whereby I swopped the 4th/5th gear sender wires which did not work! and after having a look at the wiring diagram in the manual (as you do)! It looks like the speed sensor on the back of the clocks will not allow the cruise to hold below 30mph or above 80mph.
I am not sure if maybe putting a resistor in this circuit to fool the reading would help or if anyone has a better fix or done something else with good results?
Some of you may say "why would you want to cruise above 80mph"? I am travelling to the south of France on long motorways for around 8 hours with a fellow winger who runs a new 1800 which does cruise much faster and I am looking to try and keep to the same speed as him which would probably be around 85/90mph.
Any help would be appreciated.

TA!
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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby vtxcandyred » Tue May 31, 2011 8:04 pm

I have a 93 SE that I switched the wires on and it worked like a champ. Make sure you are switching the correct wires. Its wire # three and four as you are looking down at the connector. http://gl1800a.osborn-us.com/wingcruisecontrol.htmlThese are the directions I used. I have a 93 SE and love NOT having the restriction. It works like a champ. BUT!!!!!!!!!! Please be sure you snap the connector back together TIGHTLY!!!!!!!! I didn't and it was a problem. I snapped it back together TIGHTLY and have not looked back.

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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby dingdong » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:18 am

I understand that this mod only works on 93 and up models. ???
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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby archerrj » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:42 pm

dingdong wrote:I understand that this mod only works on 93 and up models. ???

I would like to know about the years also.

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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby propasstoro » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:11 am

Hello VTXCandyred,

Thank you so much for your reply, I loved the article and if it had worked on my 92 I would be over the moon, however it doesnt work on my old girl, not sure why though? I still have this thing in my head that the manual is saying the cruise will not operate below 30 or above 80???? which again points to the speed sensor surely???
I am still struggling, so if there are any other thoughts as to why the wiring is different on a 92 to a 93 i would appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks again

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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby propasstoro » Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:13 pm

Hey fella's

Does anyone have any further thoughts on this? Surely some of you electronics men can help!!!!

I will be travelling in around 3 weeks and would love to have a fix for this!!!

:idea: :idea: :idea: :cry:

Thanks for any help you can give.

Propasstoro.

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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby Mooseman » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:50 pm

Not that knowleagable on the 1500. But in 93 the following occured on the cruse control.

1993 didn't see much change either, the SE getting the CB radio (previously an expensive Hondaline accessory) as standard. The cruise control now took it's reading directly from the camshaft, which made it more responsive and from now on the 1520cc engines all had needle roller bearings in the rocker arm pivots. Small improvements like this went a long way and tied up the loose ends.

I don't have a wireing diagarm on the 88-92.
Hope this helps a little.
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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby propasstoro » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:04 pm

Thanks Mooseman,

I hear what you are saying and thanks for your input but that doesnt get me around the slight increase that I am looking for on my cruise and I love the old girl so much that I would find it hard to part with her for a newer model, I just wonder if there isnt a way to enable the cruise to operate at a higher speed by fooling something? I dont know what I need to fool though :?

I dont think it would be possible to change where the cruise picks up its measurements from be it either the speedo or the camshaft :(

It doesnt make sense that something so old and with old tech that today we do not have something that I can fool it with???

Help, Help, Help!!!! Pretty Please :idea: :?:

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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby SpynCycle » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:51 pm

Do the 1800 have the same limit on setting of the cruise control?

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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby propasstoro » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:28 am

Hi Spyncycle,

I don't think that the cruise on the 1800 has the same limit, I think it tops out at 100 mph. I have done my trip to the south of France and had to limit the cruise to 80 mph and it took 14 hours :cry: any savings on this time would have been much appreciated but alas it was not to be!!! :roll:

I am just still hoping that someone out there will be able to point me in the right direction to get some help to solve this :idea:

Come on all you clever fella's surely one of you can help you cant all be as dumb as me!!!! Can you????

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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby David.Mac » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:25 am

Here's a link to an article I posted some time ago. I have a 1992 GL1500 and it works 100% on mine.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2789#p11510.
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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby propasstoro » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:31 am

Hi David,

Thanks for the reply, I have done this with no improvement and since then I am begining to realise that my GL1500 was registered in the UK in 1992 but looks like it was built in1989 by the frame number? perhaps this makes a difference? :?

Propasstoro

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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby David.Mac » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:45 am

As far as I know, it works on all 1500 Aspys. I haven't found anything to the contrary. Are you sure you cross-connected the correct wires? Wish you lots of luck.
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Re: Fooling the cruise control on a GL1500

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:11 am

Take a look at this post viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6946

It deals with a kph problem and cruise.
In your case doubling the affective speed won't help.You need to only increase it.
By dividing the pulses by 1.5,the output to the cruise range increases by that ammount.
eg...original 30-80mph..With a divide by 1.5 circuit..45-120mph
A divide by 2 would be 60-160 mph.Bad for you , good for the kph problem.
Here's a schematic to use.This changes the pulses going to the cruise to make ti think you are traveling within it's preset limits

NOTE: this info is for your entertainment only as I have not built or tested this unit.It is a theory only.
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