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Build my own Trailer

Postby reasonator » Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:10 am



Ok gang, I want to take a welding class and then, as my first project, build my own motorcycle trailer! The big question is: which type of welding would be most suitable for this, arc welding or mig welding?!?!?

Thanks in advance for your input!


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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby ACEWINGER » Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:55 am

Cost wise I'd use an arc welder. I built many different projects with a small gas-less mig welder and as long as the material your working with is 1/4 inch or less they work great. Here is a link to my little welder http://www.sears.com/craftsman-wire-fee ... eviewsWrap Good luck to ya.

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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby talob » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:16 am

reasonator, to begin I'm a long way from an expert on welding but I'd expect either way you weld it would work fine, the big thing is the quality of the welds, it would really ruin your day to have a toung break or loose an axle at seventy miles an hour, but I'm sure there are many here that can advise you on which way to go. Another thing is do your homework, I built a trailer some years ago and it didn't handle worth a crap untill I lengthend out the toung, there is a formula to use as far as toung length vs axle width, can't remember just what it is at the moment but again i'm sure some here know a lot more than I do about this, don't know if you've pulled a trailer but the loading of it makes a difference to, lots of things to considder. Take care
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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby L2R » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:40 am

Tig welding is more diffecult to master. (keeping the rod in one hand and the torch in the other) You can do it but it's not what you want to use to build at home. Typically, you sit in one position and weld what is in front of you.

Mig is easier and mobile-which is what trailer manufacturers use.
It also runs off of a spool so you won't be constantly stopping to pick up another rod.

Take your class and you will much better understand the difference. I have owned a miller tig welder in business. I have a mig at home and it works great as a home hobbiest. Mine is small but I can weld up to 1/4 inch plate (which is rare).

I have built a trailer amongst other things. 3/16 is the heaviest angle plate I have ever used. Design plays a large roll in what weight the trailer will handle.
good luck and enjoy.
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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby twostrokes48 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:49 pm

I have a mig welder that I use for projects. I do have an arc also but havn't used it since I got the Mig. Not to discourage you at all, but as some have said here , many considerations with a trailer, especially if you are pulling it with a motorcycle. Now what I did is purchase the small trailer from harbor fraight and then used that as my frame and built the rest of it for the bike. If the idea is to get a good safe trailer, that might be a good way to go, if of course the idea is to do the project, then go with it. One thing you could do is take paper and pen and go to someplace like Harbor Fraight and take down all the measurements from one of theirs, that way you have something that will track down the road without problems. And as others have said, how you load it makes a big difference, tongue weight and length also, even the size of the wheels. It can all work, just have to get the right stuff together. Good Luck with your project. If you like to camp having the trailer sure makes it a lot more comfortable because of what you can bring vs what you can strap on a bike.

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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby keithg64 » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:21 pm

I have a small mig welder and have used it for many years. I would look into a Harbour Freight trailer and work with that.
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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby heidebill » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:13 pm

Here is a link to my trailer build

http://www.oldawgs.com/bh's.htm

I used a very small mig, with Argon/Co2 mix
I built it to accomodate a Roof Carrier,
the whole project including the box was around $600,
It pulls really nice
I did not want the Trailer to be wider than my mirrors
If my memory serves me correctly the distance from the ball to axle is 4" longer than the bike wheel base.

Enjoy the project, post some pictures
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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby racing chevy 67 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:21 pm

reasonator wrote:Ok gang, I want to take a welding class and then, as my first project, build my own motorcycle trailer! The big question is: which type of welding would be most suitable for this, arc welding or mig welding?!?!?

Thanks in advance for your input!


lots of good input here from the guys ,,,,
I looked at making one also ,,if you look at the cost of the medal, tires/wheels/ lit kit and other things ,,,here is what I got ,,have you looked at going this way .....you can find a used car topper or a new one for less the 2 hundred

http://www.harborfreight.com/870-lb-cap ... 42708.html
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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby cbx4evr » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:27 pm

heidebill wrote:Here is a link to my trailer build

http://www.oldawgs.com/bh's.htm

I used a very small mig, with Argon/Co2 mix
I built it to accomodate a Roof Carrier,
the whole project including the box was around $600,
It pulls really nice
I did not want the Trailer to be wider than my mirrors
If my memory serves me correctly the distance from the ball to axle is 4" longer than the bike wheel base.

Enjoy the project, post some pictures
Bill




You should have built one of those for me too Bill.
"It´s a friggen motorcycle, it´s not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you s**t your pants every now and then. "

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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby racing chevy 67 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:46 am

[quote="cbx4evr"][quote="heidebill"]Here is a link to my trailer build

http://www.oldawgs.com/bh's.htm

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Very nice job,on your trailer ,,,

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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby heidebill » Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:48 pm

That Harbour freight Trailer looks pretty good, We don't have Harbour Freight in our neighbourhood, If we did that would be the way I would go,

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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby twostrokes48 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:24 pm

The item can be purchased on line from Harbor Freight's websight...Shipping might be a little too much...but you might want to check it out. just google Harbor Freight

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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby reasonator » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:03 am

I think I'm going with the Harbor Freight "800 Lb. Capacity 55" x 35" Box Trailer", then remove the box and design my own closed box. I will post pics here once I get it done...but don't hold your breath LOL, it might be a while before I can get "garage time" and a "kitchen pass" to get this project done LOL!!!

I do appreciate everyone's input on this one!!
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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby twostrokes48 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:48 am

good choice, that's the same one I choose. Good luck with it...Sure improved our camping comfort over the other one we had.

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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby cbx4evr » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:57 am

That's a good plan. Building a trailer as a first welding project didn't seem like a good idea to me. Too many things have to be exactly right on a trailer otherwise it dog tracks and pulls like crap.
"It´s a friggen motorcycle, it´s not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you s**t your pants every now and then. "

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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby talob » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:43 am

Hi reasonator, one thing to keep in mind if you go this rout, my first trailer was one of these small utility trailers with a cartop carrier bolted on it, it worked ok but the vibration from the road was cracking the mounts on the carrier and everything in the trailer was really getting shook up bad, these trailers I think are raited at likea thousand pounds what I did was take the helper leaf out of the spring leaving just the main leaf it rode a lot better.
Mike

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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby reasonator » Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:30 am

Mike, awesome tip! This was going to be my next question!!!!!!
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Re: Build my own Trailer

Postby L2R » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:07 pm

I decided too to build one last spring. It looked to me like about 600 to build.

After looking around, I found mine unused for 650. Kinda took the fun out of building it but I have enough of a list that isn't getting done. With that, it came with 12 inch, highway rated, chrome wheels/tires, tortion suspension, not leafsprings, a spare, a cooler basket and LED brake lights. Since then, I have seen one other around here for the same price.
You can see it on piggybacker.com. I added a 3rd brake light, spoiler and couple other things to make it safer IMHO.
I have 750 in the hitch and trailer total. I just got back from TN and posted 845 miles on it's maiden voyage. No pulling issues, I didn't know it was there. No side shimmy and lugs stayed tight.


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