Starting problem 94 1500


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Starting problem 94 1500

Postby Madhatter144 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:00 am



I just purchased a 94 Aspy. I got it on the net, and brought it home to GA. The battery was almost dead, so I charged it on the charger overnight. Couldn't start the bike next day, ran the battery down again. Took the battery to Walmart (I know, I didn't buy it) had it checked by them, and an auto parts store, both said battery is OK, just needed a charge. To make a long story short, the bike will not start when pushing the start button, will only start at the instant you let the button go. Anyone???



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Re: Starting problem 94 1500

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:03 pm

Madhatter144 wrote:I just purchased a 94 Aspy. I got it on the net, and brought it home to GA. The battery was almost dead, so I charged it on the charger overnight. Couldn't start the bike next day, ran the battery down again. Took the battery to Walmart (I know, I didn't buy it) had it checked by them, and an auto parts store, both said battery is OK, just needed a charge. To make a long story short, the bike will not start when pushing the start button, will only start at the instant you let the button go. Anyone???


Classic symptom of a weak battery. Replacing the battery with a new (fully charged) one should solve that problem.

If the bike has a Compufire alternator, you should be installing an AGM battery.

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Re: Starting problem 94 1500

Postby dingdong » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:15 pm

Classic symptom of a weak or defective battery.
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Re: Starting problem 94 1500

Postby ka4yqi » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:43 pm

Most say a battery problem. I dont think that is so. Maybe a electrical problem. My 89 goldwing did it with a new battery. also the 98 goldwing does it. It got a new odessy battery on it, also did it with the old battery. So far I just bump the starter and get it spinning and turn loose and it fires. Its like your taking away juice to fire it and turn the start loose and it has it.

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Re: Starting problem 94 1500

Postby Sempai » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:05 am

I think, before I'd pull all my hair out, I'd jump the solenoid. If nothing else, just to confirm/deny a battery issue. Try to start the bike with the starter button, when it fails to crank, leave it be and jump the solenoid. If the batter IS bad, the bike will still fail to crank, if the batter is okay, the bike will crank just fine, there-by eliminating the battery as a problem. And if the bike cranks by jumping the solenoid, I'd suspect a dirty start switch, disassemble it and clean it.
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Re: Starting problem 94 1500

Postby rescuemark » Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:16 am

My 89 has always been like this even with a new battery. Has never failed to start though.
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Re: Starting problem 94 1500

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:25 am

Here's a test procedure to follow.

1. Using a digital volt meter,get a accurate voltage of the battery during cranking,not running,Using the meter directly to the 2 battery terminals.****this is important***** as this gives you the actual avaiable voltage from the battery at that moment.

2. Remove the test leads,attach the negative lead to the ignition module "green" wire,circled on the schematic.Probe right into the plug.

3. Using the red test lead,probe into the plug on the Blk/Wht wire.This is the volts to run the ignition module.
Measure the volts while cranking again.
The difference should be very little,maybe 1/2 volt less.Example....Battery during cranking is 11.2 volts then the volts to the module should be no less than 10.7.
If the volts is dropping below 9 volts or so,the ignition module may not provide any spark at all.

If the volts drop,You have a corroded ground lug on the frame,bad ignition switch,kill switch,etc.You get the idea.
If the volts stay up OK,I'd be looking for a fuel related problem.eg,vacuum lines.
Let us know what the test results are.
I do have a solution for "low volts" using a relay like what is used for the charging problem on the 1100,1200. Here's a lot more reading...viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9718....
And the schematic.

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Re: Starting problem 94 1500

Postby Madhatter144 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:42 pm

Thanks all, for the advise. This site is AWSOME. For the time being, at least, I am going to let the sleeping dog lie. Since she runs good, and starts OK, and immediately upon release of the starter button (don't even have to crank it more than 3 or 4 revolutions and let go), and others have had the same thing, no sense worrying about it.
Again, I really appreciate the helpfulness of the people on this site.

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Re: Starting problem 94 1500

Postby vtxcandyred » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:01 pm

Madhatter144 wrote:Thanks all, for the advise. This site is AWSOME. For the time being, at least, I am going to let the sleeping dog lie. Since she runs good, and starts OK, and immediately upon release of the starter button (don't even have to crank it more than 3 or 4 revolutions and let go), and others have had the same thing, no sense worrying about it.
Again, I really appreciate the helpfulness of the people on this site.

Thats exactly what my 93SE did. I replaced the battery and the problem quit. You do need an AGM battery though.

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Re: Starting problem 94 1500

Postby heidebill » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:52 pm

Had the same problem with my 97 1500, I milked the battery for one year, then replaced it the next spring, problem solved,
What I did was, When I cranked the battery to death, put the crank charger on it would start immediately,
which told me that with a bit of extra kick it would start, another thread said that , cranking draws enough from the battery to lower the voltage enough to fail the spark, therefore when the engine is spinning and you release the start button, Voltage goes up enough to activate the ignition. Sounded good to me and Replacing the battery solved my problem. Can't remember where I picked up the Battery, Walmart or Canadian Tire,
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Re: Starting problem 94 1500

Postby bellboy40 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:27 pm

Many 1500s will act this way when starting them. No one has found any one thing that causes it. It does seem to be that the ignition does not get enough voltage to fire the plugs when the starter is running and sometimes a new battery will cure it. Others have found corrosion on some of the connectors that go to the primary side of the ignition coils. One guy on another forum found that the wires on the connector on the coils themselves were turning green from corrosion. This is just some other things you could check when you decide to look into it further.




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