Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing


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Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby mosesmcrae » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:48 am



The reverse switch won't hold in when selected. The reverse does work if I hold the switch in and push the starter.

The schematic shows lots of selenoids and the housing for the switch is intimidating. Has anyone worked this situation who could offer a shortcut to the solution?

Thanks everyone,

Bob



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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby 2008retiredplb » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:12 am

mosesmcrae wrote:The reverse switch won't hold in when selected. The reverse does work if I hold the switch in and push the starter.

The schematic shows lots of selenoids and the housing for the switch is intimidating. Has anyone worked this situation who could offer a shortcut to the solution?

Thanks everyone,

Bob


Have you tried cleaning the switch? I think Fred Harmon http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/root has some videos or instructions on cleaning the switches, you might try looking there. You need to scroll down to the one on stuck switches. That may help you.
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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby thrasherg » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:54 pm

Based on your description, the problem is with the switch on your handlebar not the relays. As suggested I would try cleaning the switch and see if that fixes it. If not you have to either replace the switch or the entire handlebar switch unit!! I have not seen the switches sold separately so it might only be possible to replace the entire handlebar switch unit, but that will NOT be cheap.. By some switch cleaner, open up the switch unit on the handlebar (2 screws) and spray large amounts of cleaner into the switch, whilst you push the reverse button in and out to see if it free's up and starts working correctly.

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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby mosesmcrae » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:36 pm

thrasherg wrote:Based on your description, the problem is with the switch on your handlebar not the relays. As suggested I would try cleaning the switch and see if that fixes it. If not you have to either replace the switch or the entire handlebar switch unit!! I have not seen the switches sold separately so it might only be possible to replace the entire handlebar switch unit, but that will NOT be cheap.. By some switch cleaner, open up the switch unit on the handlebar (2 screws) and spray large amounts of cleaner into the switch, whilst you push the reverse button in and out to see if it free's up and starts working correctly.

Gary


If the button won't stay "held" in, it shouldn't be a stuck, should it? A relay holds the button in so I can push the starter button to move the bike, right? If the button were stuck in the bike would indicate it is in reverse all the time, wouldn't it? Or am I thinking wrong?
I sure hope the entire assembly doesn't need to be replaced!

Thanks for the feedback!

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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:42 pm

It's a push on/push off button, so it is a little mechanical catch that keeps it in when pressed. If it gets gummed up or dirty, it can prevent the catch from working. Cleaning it out can free up the catch, fixing the problem.

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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby thrasherg » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:59 pm

As wingadmin says, the switch has a little metal link that makes the switch latch in and out, it either breaks or gets gummed up and stops working. Its 100% mechanical (not electrical) so it's definately not the relays, you just need to spray a contact cleaner on the reverse switch and it will either un-gum the metal link and the switch will start working correctly, or if the metal piece has broken, un-gumming it wont change anything and you will need to find a new switch or a replacement switch housing.. I hope that makes sense.. :)

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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby mosesmcrae » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:21 pm

Ok, that explains it better. I'll give it a couple shots of contact cleaner and see what happens.

Thanks again,

Bob

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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby 2008retiredplb » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:37 pm

Follow the directions on the Fred Harmon site as I think there is a spring that you can loose very easy. Clean and try it a number of times before putting it back together.
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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby mbuesing » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:19 pm

To take it apart, remove it as an assembly and disassemble it inside a gallon plastic bag.The spring WILL fly.
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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby WOJCIECH » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:07 am

I know you do not hit as often or for example, in winter it switches on the steering wheel does not work, I suggest you do nothing, simply press several times until it starts to work!

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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby mosesmcrae » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:15 pm

Ok, so today I took the leap and disassembled the reverse switch. The Fred Harmon photos were very helpful. The one showing the tiny copper wire that makes the switch hold in and then release wasn't doing its job. Beneath it is a small strip of copper that needed bending back up slightly. This forces the wire up and makes the switch work properly.

Silicone grease is also known as dielectric grease. O'Reilly's auto parts carries it in small squeeze packages at the check out counter. I put it over all the parts after cleaning them with contact cleaner.
When reassembling the switch I found the snap on cover holding the switch assembly together wasn't tight enough for my satisfaction. I wrapped a piece of tape around the assembly before putting it back into place in the housing.

Thanks to everyone for the tips and especially for the link to Fred Harmon's website.

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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby NKYWinger » Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:30 am

I've just added an '03 1800 to the garage and have found a similar problem:
Engine running
Neutral light on
Side stand up


I hold the reverser button until the "R" light comes on.

As soon as I hit the starter/reverse button, it pops back to neutral and the "N" light comes back on.

:?: Could this be the same situation as above? :?: (Hopefully) Contacts that just need a good cleaning?

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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby 2008retiredplb » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:47 am

NKYWinger wrote:I've just added an '03 1800 to the garage and have found a similar problem:
Engine running
Neutral light on
Side stand up


I hold the reverser button until the "R" light comes on.

As soon as I hit the starter/reverse button, it pops back to neutral and the "N" light comes back on.

:?: Could this be the same situation as above? :?: (Hopefully) Contacts that just need a good cleaning?

MAN, this 1800 has MILES of wiring........


Yes it could be the same thing. Go to Fred Harmon's http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/root
has some videos or instructions on cleaning the switches, you might try looking there. You need to scroll down to the one on stuck switches. That may help you.
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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby NKYWinger » Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:46 am

Thanks! :D That could be exactly what it is! (Especially since I'm having problems with the Cruise Control On/Off switch sticking).....They are all in the same housing...thanks again.
The guys on GL1800riders.com really recommend Fred's video's, btw.
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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby 2008retiredplb » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:47 am

Glad to help. Hope this gives you the information you needed to correct the problem.
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Re: Reverse Switch on 2001 Goldwing

Postby Ghostman » Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:39 am

http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/reverseswitch
Heres a link to Freds reverse switch instructions.




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