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2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby laitken » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:29 pm



My 2012 Wing is in the shop since last week because the mechanic installing the CB said there was a problem. The Service Manager said the connectors between the radio in front and the CB radio in the rear do not match up. While the connectors look similar, there is a small deviation in the size from each other. The service manager was going to call Honda on the East Coast today (Monday) to see what was going on. The box the CB came in said it was for the 2012 GL1800. Anyone else have this problem?


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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby laitken » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:39 pm

Update: The Honda dealer says they had to order a new harness. Apparently, the one that came with the radio was incorrect.
It was shipped overnight and the dealer says they might have the bike back to me on Tuesday afternoon. :D
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby salyzyn » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:19 am

You should have told them to give you your money back. Go off and install a GL2way instead.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby Steve L » Wed May 02, 2012 9:01 pm

I just had mine installed. Dealer took 2 hours to install the CB and antenna, test and tune it, and it works flawlessly! Sorry to hear you had a problem with incorrect harness on an OEM part from Honda - that is very rare! I've been riding Hondas for 50 years and never heard of a problem like that! Enjoy communicating :)
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby laitken » Thu May 03, 2012 8:49 pm

More bad news. The radio only receives audio. The screen says it's transmitting, but it isn't. The dealer has been consternated and is working with Honda techs back East somewhere. The techs are saying it is probably the antenna and they have seen this problem numerous times in the past. The dealer is going to try another antenna on Friday and if it works, they will order a new one for me. If if doesn't, then Honda says the radio module is defective and again, the dealer will order a new one. Let's see now..... the dealer has had my brand new Wing for 11 days now. :shock:
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby ka4cpo » Tue May 22, 2012 1:43 pm

My bike is a Trike and Honda knows that there are some grounding issues with this type of trike installed. I keep having either CB ERROR which cuts out all other items, but continues to broadcast on an open mic. My other problem is whenever the PTT is pushed, the CB will change whatever radio channel AM/FM/Sirius/XM, plus adjust the volume, and squelch all on its own. Bike has been in shop for over 3 weeks looking for solution, and it looks like it's on its way back again.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby themainviking » Wed May 23, 2012 7:49 am

It sounds to me like the box your brand new CB came in had been cannibalized at some time. What I would be asking your service manager at your dealership to do is to order an entire brand new CB complete with antenna, and totally redo the installation. In the mean time, I would have him remove all the junk he put in there, and I would be riding my brand new Goldwing. You have been patient enough in my view.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby ka4cpo » Wed May 23, 2012 1:23 pm

I wish it was this simple because I am now on my third radio already.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby themainviking » Wed May 23, 2012 3:39 pm

laitken wrote:More bad news. The radio only receives audio. The screen says it's transmitting, but it isn't. The dealer has been consternated and is working with Honda techs back East somewhere. The techs are saying it is probably the antenna and they have seen this problem numerous times in the past. The dealer is going to try another antenna on Friday and if it works, they will order a new one for me. If if doesn't, then Honda says the radio module is defective and again, the dealer will order a new one. Let's see now..... the dealer has had my brand new Wing for 11 days now. :shock:


As I mentioned above, laitken, I feel your pain, and as I said, you have been patient enough. Eleven days? It is time to start pounding on some desks.....
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby ka4cpo » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:15 pm

Interesting note-I just called my dealer and he said there was another 2012 CSC Trike in his shop that just came in with the exact same CB radio problem. Is this a Honda or CSC Trike problem?
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby gregdempsey » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:41 am

I’m having the same problem on my 2012, whenever the PTT is pushed, the CB will change whatever radio channel AM/FM/Sirius/XM, plus adjust the volume all on its own. There are 2 other 2012 bikes here in Huntsville Al with the same issue. Has anyone else had these problems? All 3 bikes were built 10/11.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:09 am

gregdempsey wrote:I’m having the same problem on my 2012, whenever the PTT is pushed, the CB will change whatever radio channel AM/FM/Sirius/XM, plus adjust the volume all on its own. There are 2 other 2012 bikes here in Huntsville Al with the same issue. Has anyone else had these problems? All 3 bikes were built 10/11.


That sounds like an RF interference problem, where RF output from the CB is causing the digital electronics that control other things to malfunction.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby gregdempsey » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:14 am

The problem only occurs when I’m plugged in to the drivers connection and not the passenger’s. If my wife presses her PTT everything works fine. If she is not with me and I plug into her connection and use my PTT everything works great.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:59 pm

gregdempsey wrote:The problem only occurs when I’m plugged in to the drivers connection and not the passenger’s. If my wife presses her PTT everything works fine. If she is not with me and I plug into her connection and use my PTT everything works great.


Perhaps your headphone cable is not adequately shielded, and when plugged into the driver's connection, it is acting as an antenna, feeding RF into the system? As an experiment, try wrapping your headset cable completely in aluminum foil, then use a wire to connect the aluminum foil to a known good ground on the bike. Plug it in and see if the problem still occurs.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby salyzyn » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:04 pm

Consider a ferrous clamp-on your headphone cable (the part that is on the bike, underneath the left cubby, not your coiled-cord headphone cable). These things are available from Radio Scrap, or from BikeMp3.com
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby ka4cpo » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:49 am

I'm doing a little research; are any of these bikes trikes like mine, and if so which trike kit?
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby gregdempsey » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:15 am

2 are bikes and one has a Champion trike kit installed.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:21 pm

salyzyn wrote:Consider a ferrous clamp-on your headphone cable (the part that is on the bike, underneath the left cubby, not your coiled-cord headphone cable). These things are available from Radio Scrap, or from BikeMp3.com


It's a good idea, and a cheap fix if it is in fact the problem. Near the bottom of the headphone cable (or even better, on the headphone pigtail inside the fairing), pass the wire several times through a choke like this:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... Id=2103979

Ferrite choke
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As many times as you get get it through the choke and still have the wire reach where it needs to go - the more times the better. That will definitely attenuate any RF that the cable may be picking up and feeding into your bike's system.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby ka4cpo » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:50 am

Trike still in the shop after 5 weeks. Honda claims that all of its parts are working, even though it's only Honda parts that are affected. Everytime I press the PTT, the CB will change my channel, change my squelch, change my volume on both the CB and XM radio. Honda also believes that it may be a California Side Car problem, but no luck from them. Now Honda claims that it is because I added extra items on the bike (i.e. flashing tail lights, modulating headlights, trunk mounted flashing brake light). Not sure who to believe, especially when the CB was giving me problems before ANYTHING was added except for the modulating headlights.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby pedro66 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:53 pm

Hi all can you update on how you are getting on with the 2012 CB radios
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby ka4cpo » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:56 pm

I see all the suggestions on putting a ferrous clamp on the 2012 CB radio to correct issues associated with this bike. I don't believe this will work because Honda has already caused a choke point by wrapping up their antenna wire into a small ball because they placed the radio too close to the antenna and wasn't able to streatch out the antenna wire.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby ka4cpo » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:32 pm

My trike is still in the shop. Honda says all their parts are working, but it's a honda CB. California Side Car has done some research with local dealers and internet and has decided, like Honda, this isn't their problem.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby ka4cpo » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:25 am

Here it is, almost the end of August and my trike is still in the shop for radio problems. Can't get my money back from Honda because of the heavy modifications done to it (adding the trike kit). Any more good ideas out there?
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby themainviking » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:40 pm

Take your trike back from the shop and ride it. When winter comes, if it does for you, give it back to them. I would be damned if I woulda let them have my bike all summer. Also, maybe pull the CB out of the bike and get a GL2way from BikeMP3. That just might be your solution.
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Re: 2012 CB Rado Install issues

Postby pedro66 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:19 am

Going to try some fixes ned weekend will update

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