GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning


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GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby Paulcf » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:13 am



Hi everyone! I bought a beater Goldwing, a 2003. Both wheel rims are badly soiled and have stains and "rust" on them. I am guessing that they may have a layer of lacquer on them? I did try an aluminum cleaning product and it did remove a lot of gunk, and the rag was black but it will take a long time to do both wheels (especially the rear one). The previous owner I don't think ever washed the bike!

Question to the forum/group is what have you USED on YOUR rims to return them to factory new/clean condition? I suspect once I have cleaned them, my regular washing and detailing will keep them clear and shiny for a long time. Remember I only want to know if you have done this with your own bike rims. Thanks in advance! Safe riding!


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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby FlyBoy2121 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:21 am

I Paulcf.

I do not want advertising. My 2003 had the corosion aluminum on two wheels, and I used the 3M pad the red, and much elbow grease, and are returned as new or almost.

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Paulcf wrote:Hi everyone! I bought a beater Goldwing, a 2003. Both wheel rims are badly soiled and have stains and "rust" on them. I am guessing that they may have a layer of lacquer on them? I did try an aluminum cleaning product and it did remove a lot of gunk, and the rag was black but it will take a long time to do both wheels (especially the rear one). The previous owner I don't think ever washed the bike!

Question to the forum/group is what have you USED on YOUR rims to return them to factory new/clean condition? I suspect once I have cleaned them, my regular washing and detailing will keep them clear and shiny for a long time. Remember I only want to know if you have done this with your own bike rims. Thanks in advance! Safe riding!
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby themainviking » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:30 pm

I also have used the 3M pads with a product called Flitz on my rims to bring them back up, but they were not real bad to start with. Most of us around here use Flitz or Solvol Autosol with 3M pads. Some elbow grease also helps as Flyboy mentioned. There is no lacquer on stock rims, so if there was any on those rims, it was added after the bike was manufactured (previous owner, etc) A polishing ball and good wax helps to keep the brake dust from pitting them.
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby Bouvier1 » Tue May 01, 2012 5:03 am

On my 2001 bike I found that it did initially have a lacquer on the rim (was bought with 800 miles on the clock so believe it to be original honda lacquer) and I removed it with paint remover then polished it up. Tried the reverse thats when I found out about the lacquer. Coincidentally my 2007 is also lacquered - is this just a UK trait?

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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby themainviking » Tue May 01, 2012 9:25 am

I dunno Bouvier. None of our wings here where I live have lacquered wheels, but I cannot say for anywhere else, but we have a couple of guys here with U.S. market wings, and the rest Canadian market, and not a lacquered wheel in the bunch that we can see. Maybe we are cleaning the lacquer off before we thought to look. I am gonna do that today - go to the dealership and check a new one.
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby themainviking » Tue May 01, 2012 1:18 pm

Okay - I just got back from our local dealership (fourth largest in the entire country for sales) and they said that although GL1500 bikes had lacquered rims, there have never been any GL1800 bikes with lacquered rims, in this country at least. There was a 2001 on the lot and a 2012 in the showroom, so we went and looked at both - no lacquered rims. They said the way to tell is to examine the spokes. If lacquered, the spokes have a finer finish than what the GL1800s have, which is kind of coarse and rough. This refers to the gray portion on the inside of the wheel rather than the polished part which faces out. So, no lacquered GL1800 rims in Canada.
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby Paulcf » Tue May 01, 2012 3:50 pm

Thanks Viking! Good research work!

My bike is a USA model but you're right about the spokes, mine are 'coarse' and when I did the initial cleaning with the cleaning product I had, it immediately got black on the rag. Also, considering that my 2003 Wing is 9 years old, you'd expect to see peeling of the lacquer coating, like you used to see on the older 1200 wings on the engine blocks. I doubt American Honda in Marysville, Ohio had different Goldwing rims for a "Canadian" bike...it would just be the speedometer to show Kph vs MPH.

Thus I should be able to use some of the information in this forum to clean my rims without worry and return them to a pristine like new condition that will be easy to keep clean on a regular basis. Please keep updating this forum if you come across anything further as it will help many other Wing owners I'm sure! Thanks.
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby FlyBoy2121 » Tue May 01, 2012 4:49 pm

I PaulCF


I once cleaned the wheels with the 3m pad that is the picture, the way I find that the corosion come back here in Quebec especially winter, apply a thin layer of Vaseline.

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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby MikeB » Tue May 01, 2012 7:22 pm

For Aluminum polishing (your wheels), this is the absolute best stuff I have ever used.

This is the site address http://www.captainrichardsbest.com/. I was amazed at how little effort it took to remove the oxidation from both my GL1500 wheels and my GL1800 wheels. I followed the directions on the bottle, wipe on until the cloth turns black, and then wipe off without waiting for it to dry.
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby MikeB » Tue May 01, 2012 8:24 pm

By the way, the easiest way to maintain clean wheels and make them easy to clean in the future is to have them powder-coated. I have a spare set of wheels for both the 1500 and the 1800 and they are powder-coated. Very easy to clean. Most of the time all I need is a wet cloth to wipe them off. No corrosion or pitting to worry about. The cost for powder-coating here in my area was $125 a set plus tax.

The only problem is the price of bearings and seals for the GL1500 wheels and the front GL1800 wheel. Luckily, the wheels were in need of new bearings anyway. Of course, the GL1800 rear wheel needs no bearings or seals so there were no extra charges. Valve stems were replaced with all 90 degree metal stems bought through PatchBoy.com http://patchboy.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=P&Product_Code=17-562&Category_Code=6-3
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby Mike 545 » Wed May 02, 2012 9:25 am

Since we are discussing cleaning wheels, what about the tires? Can I use tire shine? Can I use it on the tire's side walls.

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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby MikeB » Wed May 02, 2012 11:28 pm

I personally would not use anything to clean the tires unless I had white walls and then I'd probably would use a Brillo Pad to clean them. Most things on the market for tires make the tires not only shiny but slippery. I like all the friction I can get on my tires, sidewalls included.
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby themainviking » Thu May 03, 2012 6:09 am

I tend to agree with the shiny tires idea. Shiny chemically means slippery, even tho it only takes a few miles to wear it off, or scuff it up. Those few miles however can be as dangerous as brand new tires are. They advise 50 miles of careful driving on brand new tires, and when shine chemicals get right into the pores of the tire, it might even take longer than that. Careful use on the sidewalls should be okay though.
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby Steve F » Thu May 03, 2012 8:42 am

Well, you know, you don't put the tire shine on the tread :roll: On the sidewall is fine, but apply it with a rag or the applicator that comes with some products and don't spray it on and keep it off the tread.
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby Mike 545 » Thu May 03, 2012 8:44 am

Is there any way to make the tires look better? Mine look, well I don't like the look of them; and they are new. What can be done? Is the answer to just live with them?

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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby MikeB » Thu May 03, 2012 10:07 am

Mike, all I can say is, they look like motorcycle tires and I am not sure what you are trying to achieve. If your intention is to put the bike in a mall show or static display or some sort of contest, then use the Tire Shine or what ever else you have after you set the bike up for static display. Otherwise, you will just have to live with their present appearance. And the next time you have your tires replaced, maybe opt for white sidewall tires. Besides, if the wheels are bright and shiny, no one will even notice the tires.
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby Paulcf » Mon May 07, 2012 11:47 am

If you are following this thread, it is about RIM CLEANING on a GL1800. Nothing to do with the rubber tires!

I have finished successfully cleaning my front tire rim...what a mess it was. There is still evidence of pitting but 95% is gone.

I noticed now that Honda lists the 2012 Wing as having coated rims to make cleaning easier. Yeah, thanks Honda on that goof up.

Let's see: $10K for a 2003 or $30K for a 2012...nah, I'll clean my rims!

I must now tackle the rear rim, even though it's mostly hidden from view, I would like to clean it once. I have to find how to remove the saddlebags so if anyone has instructions on that, I'd appreciate it. I am sure it involves removing the rear license plate area and then it should be fairly intuitive on how to remove the bags. A good time also to drain and fill the rear drive oil.
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby MikeB » Mon May 07, 2012 12:22 pm

There is a video on You Tube about changing the wheels on a GL1800.
Look for Changing The Rear Wheel on a GL1800.
Saddlebag removal is not necessary, unlike the GL1500.
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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby Mike 545 » Mon May 07, 2012 2:01 pm

I know the thread is about rim cleaning. I just thought that since rims and tires go together, I'd give it a shot. Sorry.

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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby dragon2000 » Mon May 07, 2012 10:32 pm

themainviking wrote:I also have used the 3M pads with a product called Flitz on my rims to bring them back up, but they were not real bad to start with. Most of us around here use Flitz or Solvol Autosol with 3M pads. Some elbow grease also helps as Flyboy mentioned. There is no lacquer on stock rims, so if there was any on those rims, it was added after the bike was manufactured (previous owner, etc) A polishing ball and good wax helps to keep the brake dust from pitting them.


Where did you pick up the 3M Pads Viking? As we are in the same Province I should be able to get them at the same store. The reason I am looking for them is I want to clean up my old rear wheel which was a bit stained from the brake dust. The Autosol and other like cleaning materials are taking it off however I still have some pitting.

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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby ALLZEE » Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:09 pm

My girlfriend bought a headlight cleaning kit by Mothers. I used the polishing ball in my drill and some polish to clean the front wheel of my trike. Worked fine. I did clean up the headlight haze first.

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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby rgw5944 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:19 pm

800 grit wet sandpaper.

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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby Timma04 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:12 pm

I use a product called Zepalum from the ZEP company. I think it's a light version of muriatic acid and gets the wheels lickity-split clean and shiny. Afterwards they get a coat of what my brother the body shop guy calls 'Average Joe's Super Wax' that he gets from a distributor. Just like the old days when car wax had that nice petroleum smell to it! Not like todays wax that is wussy stuff! ;) By the way, I do not approve of the ad underneath my posting.....

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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby CruiseControl » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:30 am

MikeB wrote:For Aluminum polishing (your wheels), this is the absolute best stuff I have ever used. This is the site address http://www.captainrichardsbest.com/. I was amazed at how little effort it took to remove the oxidation from both my GL1500 wheels and my GL1800 wheels. I followed the directions on the bottle, wipe on until the cloth turns black, and then wipe off without waiting for it to dry.

Thanks MikeB. Did anyone else try this product? It sounds too good to be true.

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Re: GL1800 Wheel rim cleaning

Postby flaxman » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:05 pm

most recent find was "ace-it" metal polish, and a scotchbrite pad, second gear on the centerstand, little effort, great job on the heavy pitting (mine's an '01 and I ride in winter ... our roads are salted and brined) front wheel, well had to spin that by hand!

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