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06 goldwing gps issues

Postby bblmo » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:22 pm



Hi I purchased a updated cf card thought had issues with it but found out that i ended up bending 2 pins badly and now in the hunt for someone to fix or where i can get the part the card plugs into if any one out there can help please let me know .Yes phoned garmin no help and honda all they want to do is sell new one.
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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby dragon2000 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:09 pm

I experienced the same problem two weeks ago when I replaced my card with the latest version.

Excercising a lot of patience/steady hand, a magnifying glass with light and jewler's screw driver I managed to straighten the two bent pins to insert the card. I also thought they were broken however found that they were just bent close to the ones beside. Hopefully you will have the same success I did.

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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby bblmo » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:28 pm

thanks nice to know i am not the only one but Know for sure i broke one . Shaun

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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby dragon2000 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:32 pm

To find the lowest assembly piece youare looking for this may be of assistance. At the same time you may find it cheaper than ordering thru a local Dealer if you are going toinstall it yourself.

http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_select1.a ... &mfg=Honda
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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby tfdeputydawg » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:16 am

Start searching for motorcycle salvage yards! The price for the trunk mounted unit is still going to be high, even through a salvage unit. Honda, as I understand only sells the trunk unit complete!!!!
Or save money and get a new one to mount on the bike that will be way more user friendly!
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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby themainviking » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:01 am

tfdeputydawg wrote:Start searching for motorcycle salvage yards! The price for the trunk mounted unit is still going to be high, even through a salvage unit. Honda, as I understand only sells the trunk unit complete!!!!
Or save money and get a new one to mount on the bike that will be way more user friendly!
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I totally agree with deputydawg here. If you have broken a pin, your chances of getting a new unit from honda or directline parts is very slim. Salvage yards may be able to help you, but these units are not very user friendly. A Garmin Zumo, designed for motorcycle riders is much more friendly and upgradable. And for those who want to upgrade their CF carded Navi units, please be so very careful installing the new card. As two foregoing posters have mentioned, the pins bend easily, and if you break one off, you have destroyed the unit. Pressing the CF card into the unit is a delicate operation. I have done probably sixty units to date, and not bent any pins, thank goodness. There should be only very slight resistance after contacting the pins, and I mean very slight.
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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby tfdeputydawg » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:13 am

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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby rgw5944 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:33 am

My solution was to remove the unit from the trunk (easy to do) and take it to a computer repair place. I would do this even though you think a pin is broken. It is almost impossible to see inside the small slot to see these small pins correctly. If the pin is bent, they should be able to straighten it. If it's broke off, your SOL. If it's not repairable, I would look for a used Garmin that is programable and forget the GPS is in the bike. Bottom line (IMO), the OEM installed GPS s pretty worthless anyway. Not near worth the cost of replacing it. I threw away about $300 upgrading from V8 to V9 (as new as you can get for this GPS) after bending a couple pins.
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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby themainviking » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:22 am

rgw5944 wrote:My solution was to remove the unit from the trunk (easy to do) and take it to a computer repair place. I would do this even though you think a pin is broken. It is almost impossible to see inside the small slot to see these small pins correctly. If the pin is bent, they should be able to straighten it. If it's broke off, your SOL. If it's not repairable, I would look for a used Garmin that is programable and forget the GPS is in the bike. Bottom line (IMO), the OEM installed GPS s pretty worthless anyway. Not near worth the cost of replacing it. I threw away about $300 upgrading from V8 to V9 (as new as you can get for this GPS) after bending a couple pins.
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Sorry, but I have to ask - do you have another GL1800 aside from the one listed in your profile? You show a 2004, which I thought did not have an OEM GPS. But yes, Honda was charging just under $300 for the V2009 upgrade, however, Garmin is now selling a V2011 upgrade for $95 plus shipping. It is better than the previous upgrades, because it moves us into NT mapping. It is not, however, without issues, which if one is blunt enough with the Garmin Support Specialists, they will admit. I have heard rumours of another attempt coming out in Sept 2012, which may or may not correct the present issues.
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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby rgw5944 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:31 am

Sorry, I DO need to update that info. I have a 07 with the GPS. I haven't been on this forum for awhile and will get it changed. If the new program converts your unit to a NT GPS, I presume a updated version may work. In my case, it would still not be worth the upgrade because I could not program a trip with MapSource in my computer and download it into the GPS to follow. At this point, you can only do this with the 2012 model.

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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby themainviking » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:45 am

rgw - you are absolutely correct. The Honda OEM unit is not especially user friendly. It is what it is tho, so I do make use of it. If I go on a trip and want more info, like real speed to compare my speedo to, or to put a route in, with all stops planned, then I just clip my Tom Tom onto the dash and use it. The only reason I fuss with the OEM unit, is that I hate to have a computerized electronic gadget beat me, :lol:
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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby rgw5944 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:54 am

Viking,
Question. Can the newer Tom-Tom's be programed from a computer? I'm looking for a replacement for a Garmin 2720 and had not considered the Tom-Tom.
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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby themainviking » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:18 am

Yes, they can. You need their free software, TomTom Home, in which there is a route planner. Then you simply upload it to the unit and Bob's yer uncle. It is much easier using a full monitor screen to do it, cause one can see so much more better, :lol:
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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby Techdude2000 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:25 pm

Hello, Haven't been on here in awhile, just thought I would respond to this thread. I think I may have found the original manufacturer of the compact flash card connector that's used in the 06 GPS unit. I have some on order and will soon know if it's the correct one. I'm in the process of trying to fix a GPS of a member of the GL1800Riders.com forum. He broke off one of the pins and bent two others in the connector. I'm a service line tech at a company that makes electronic devices and this kind of work is easy with the right tools. If this connector turns out to be the correct one, I may be offering to fix anyone's that have more wrong than just bent pins. I'll update this thread as soon as I get the connector and see if it fits correctly in his unit.

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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby JerriEric » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:29 pm

Yes I am the moron that broke a pin on the GPS plus the push to release button was also broken. TechDude2000 will be repairing next week and sending back to me. He ordered the part and will have it Wednesday. I could not be happier at this time.

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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby jinx » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:34 pm

Sorry I don't visit the boards much anymore. I had to replace my nav on my 06 Non repairable. I was told by someone on another
board that the 09 nav will work in the 06 - 08. I trust the person who told me this, he just told me to late for me to take advantage
of the info. He said you need to replace the antenna with the unit. If true the 09 unit is about $100.00 cheaper and would alleviate
some of the problems with the 06 units.

If you keep the 06 - 08 unit you might look into the SD to CF card adapters on ebay.

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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby JerriEric » Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:43 am

Thanks I had TECHDUDE2000 repair mine. His day job is working for a repair facitlity. He removed the old part and soldered on a new one. Honda Tech line told my dealer they were not sure if an SD unit would work with my '06 and they would need to remove a unit from another bike and try it. Since the SD units have XM and the '06 does not, they did not want to try it. I tried an SD to CF adapter in my unit and it would not read the card.

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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby themainviking » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:19 pm

JerriEric, that is interesting. How large an SD card did you put into the adapter? If it was higher than 2GB, that might be the reason. If it was a 2GB, then perhaps we cannot use a SD to CF adapter. Getting an adapter and also buying an SD card is quite a bit more expensive than just buying a CF card though. I have not had a problem obtaining 2GB CF cards so far (have bought more than fifty of them in the past two years) and the cost when purchased in 10 or more lots is usually between $10 and $12. I really prefer Dane-Elec cards if I can get them and so far I have been able to.
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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby JerriEric » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:54 pm

I have used a 4gb cf card in my nav unit with no problem. I used a 4gbSD unit in the adapter. The CF card adapter had the SD slot on the top. So even if it worked I would not be able to eject the SD card without removing the cf card. Thus defeating the purpose. Another person on another forum I have communicated with on firmware and maps ordered a cf card with a micro slot in the back. If that works then you would be able to remove the micro sd without removing the cf card. He will let me know if it works. We both looked online for many hours trying to located a cf card with the sd adapter in the back but could never find one.

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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby themainviking » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:20 pm

JerriEric wrote:Another person ordered a cf card with a micro slot in the back. If that works then you would be able to remove the micro sd without removing the cf card. He will let me know if it works. We both looked online for many hours trying to located a cf card with the sd adapter in the back but could never find one.


Now this would be a definite improvement. I change my CF card every three months when the new City Navigator North America updated maps come out. It would be nice to know that my pins were safe. You mentioned you had used a 4GB CF card successfully. Did you have a map file on it larger than 2GBs? Now that is the question I would appreciate the answer to. I always have to trim off Bermuda, and other Gulf Island maps as well as a couple of really South Mexico and the two easternmost Canadian Territories and Hawaii to get map files under 2GBs.
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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby JerriEric » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:28 pm

No the maps and firmware are less then 2gb but not by much. I have 4.6 and 2011. I tried 2013 and 14 maps but my unit gets memory errors for routes 1000 miles +-. Garmin said later units came with more memory but another person has the same issue I have and he said Garmin is aware of the problem. Waiting for the 4.7 firm update. I think the units will read any maps even if greater than then 2gb. May have an issue like I had with memory if they are too large. But I could be wrong. I have spent allot of time teaching myself on what works and does not work on mine. The person I got the firmware and 2013.4 maps from has a CF '08 unit and he has no memory issues programming the same route that I get the memory issue on. So in the end Garmin may be right about earlier units had less memory.

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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby themainviking » Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:29 pm

JerriEric wrote:The person I got the firmware and 2013.4 maps from has a CF '08 unit and he has no memory issues programming the same route that I get the memory issue on. So in the end Garmin may be right about earlier units had less memory.


Okay, that all jives with my experience also. I have an 09 CF unit. I am running 2014.10 maps, and a rebuilt highway south of me has finally made it into the files. I have no problem programming a 1000+ trip, but I do not program more than I am going to ride in a day. I rode from Thunder Bay, to North Bay Ontario on one day, which was my furthest one day ride, at 1106 kms (not miles - might make a difference but I doubt it). I will try it next time I take a long trip. I will program the entire trip in and see what it does.
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Re: 06 goldwing gps issues

Postby pau7220 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:59 pm

themainviking wrote:rgw - you are absolutely correct. The Honda OEM unit is not especially user friendly. :lol:

That's the understatement of the century. I use mine only as a rolling map.....and that's marginal at best. Otherwise I find it useless. Very disappointing for the price paid for it.




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