Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50


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Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby bblmo » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:11 am



HI have been driving myself crazy trying to find out if i can upgrade my navigation unit now that has several broken pins to newer model 39200-MCA-A70 or even newer A81. Honda has nothing yet for me just though someone out there may know .
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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby themainviking » Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:32 am

My suggestion would be to go to your nearest, and/or most accomodating dealership who have a 2012 on the floor, and look at the connectors at the GPS (if they will let you) or find a friend with one so you can look yourself. You will discover that the connections won't fit to start with. Now for the biggy. Your GPS screen is not compatible with the 2012 model's unit, and I suspect that even the 2009-2010 US versions aren't due to the fact that they have more color than the CF carded units, but this is the area where I am most unfamiliar. If you were to get the entire system, front to back, that is in the 2009-2010 US models, then you "MIGHT" have a chance. The cost, however, is likely to be prohibitive. If it were me - I would spent the big bucks and get a Zumo, and still have money left over from a complete OEM change, and you would have a much more user friendly GPS. I think most of us with the CF carded OEM NAVIs are of the mind that we are using them only to make the best of a bad situation. They are pretty much useless except for point A to point B navigation. Even fully firmware and software upgraded, they ain't great. They were however a great teaching/learning tool. I will never consciously seek out and pay for an OEM GPS unit in any vehicle of any sort, anywhere, ever, in the future. Stand alone units are the answer. (and sometimes even they aren't with all the cheapos out there)
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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby themainviking » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:47 am

Okay, further to your questions, and with cost available from these guys:

http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_section_d ... veh=124378

And here if you need the display unit also:

http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_section_d ... veh=124378

which contains a blurb saying to call a tech line to order that part.

Perhaps that same tech line could tell you what parts can be used with which displays, and if any are interchangeable. It is a toll free, so it is free to ask. The very least I could see it costing to put your OEM system back on the road would be the $516.40 unit, and if you needed the more expensive one and all the other stuff to rebuild it including display, then upwards of $3100. So, for me, I would still be looking at a Zumo. I hope this info is good for something for you.
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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby bblmo » Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:17 am

thanks again will call monday hope they have an answer

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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby jinx » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:09 pm

Goto Bikemp3.com they are working on a replacement nav for the GL1800. From what I've seem
it replaces the board in the trunk and adds a lot of functionality. I'm sure
it will be cheaper tham a honda replacement.

I'm on the road right now and will not have internet until tues. at the earlest but will check back
as soon as possible.

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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby bblmo » Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:15 am

Thanks will look into

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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby WOJCIECH » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:34 am

version of the 2008 has navi with CF since 2009 to an SD card, and can be converted, it will fit, but you need navi unit, rear cables with our colleagues in Poland mentioned, everything works, but the cost!!

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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby artgrantz » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:44 pm

I agree with Viking. I just purchased and 08 1800 and I am very happy with the bike. The GPS certainly has a lot of limitations. I will be mounting my Garmin ASAP, but the Garmin isn't waterproof so the onboard unit will get used in wet weather and I'm sure I'll be glad to have it.

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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby dragon2000 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:24 pm

While I have an 09 with the Navi and the most recent software, I rarely use it to locate a destination. The only thing I use it for is glancing to see where I am and sometimes zooming in and out of an area. The reason for this is as others have mentioned is because it is not user friendly and its capability is limited once the vehicle is moving. That is if you remember to initialize before you start rolling.

Before picking up my Wing I had a Zummo 550 mounted on my other bike. On the Wing I have it on the left side and use it all the time. Most recently during trip down to Deals Gap, The Devils Triangle, Moonshiner 28, The Snake (US 421) and other roads. With it being on the left side I can zoom in, view turns, etc while I ride.

Where the cost of repairing/replacing your on board system is high, an alternative solution could be to pick up a used 550. This way you can keep looking for a cost effective solution and also enjoy the capability the 550 provides.

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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby jinx » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:55 am

This hasn't been suggested but could you take the board to a computer repair shop and see if they can replace the connector ?

I am surprised at how many people don't use the built in nav. Al thought as mentioned the Nav is limited compared to other units
it does work quite well. The problem with the lockout is an easy fix if you don't mind cutting a wire and putting in a relay.

Now I have done over 150,000 mile on my 06 I have traveled all over the US and many parts of Canada. My main nav tool is the
wings nav but I also have a Garmin Nuvi3790lmt. The nuvi is used for data logging, tracking and POI but the wing's nav is used for
navigation.

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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby dragon2000 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:30 pm

jinx wrote:This hasn't been suggested but could you take the board to a computer repair shop and see if they can replace the connector ?


That is probably the best idea put forward and when you really the most obvious.

Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:38 pm

dragon2000 wrote:
jinx wrote:This hasn't been suggested but could you take the board to a computer repair shop and see if they can replace the connector ?


That is probably the best idea put forward and when you really the most obvious.

Just my 2 cents.


I doubt most computer shops have the resources and know-how to do connector replacements on surface-mount boards, and would likely destroy the board in attempting to do so. Surface-mount rework is a very specialized trade, requiring specialized tools. Virgilmobile happens to be in exactly this type of business, he could likely suggest a good place to have this sort of thing done.

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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby jinx » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:59 pm

You maybe right but at this point what does the op have to lose. Also have you looked to see if the connector is surface mount ?
Sorry I am not pulling my board out to check already done that too many times.

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Re: Navigation unit 39200-MCA-C50

Postby jinx » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:26 pm

Did what I said I would not do. Just pulled the Nav board and yes it is a surface mount connector.
So one other suggestion. Have you contacted Garmin to see if they will fix the connector ?
I know they repair(swap) other models . They might just swap yours out for a fee.

I did pull it for other reasons. I'm working on a new mod. will let you know.




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