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RodneyC
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No headlights

Postby RodneyC » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:50 pm



Driving down road and pulled behind car and noticed no headlights. I drive with brites on during day and they were working when I left home. The hi=beam indicator on dash is also not on. All other light and turn signals work fine. I have had starter switch problem in past with lights so pulled slightly back on switch and still nothing. Any suggestions. Check fuse box and head light relay, hi and lo fuses are good. Lost!!!



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dnehasert
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Re: No headlights

Postby dnehasert » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:40 pm

Could be high/low beam switch. Had that problem once myself.

RodneyC
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Re: No headlights

Postby RodneyC » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:21 am

Thanks at least this is a starting point.

Techdude2000
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Re: No headlights

Postby Techdude2000 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:11 pm

The hi/low switch could kill the high beams, but it won't affect the low beams. You starter button switch contacts may have burned up or you may have an issue with the junction block behind the gauges that carries all the grounds to the front of the bike. There's also one right beside the relay box under the seat that will melt and cause you to loose a bunch of stuff. Do this test, start the bike, put it into reverse, and see if the low beams come on. If they do, then the problem is with the starter button circuit.

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Re: No headlights

Postby birddog » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:35 am

Techdude2000 wrote:The hi/low switch could kill the high beams, but it won't affect the low beams. You starter button switch contacts may have burned up or you may have an issue with the junction block behind the gauges that carries all the grounds to the front of the bike. There's also one right beside the relay box under the seat that will melt and cause you to loose a bunch of stuff. Do this test, start the bike, put it into reverse, and see if the low beams come on. If they do, then the problem is with the starter button circuit.


I apologize for hijacking the thread but I'm having a problem with my 2015 (one month old). I was driving with my high beams and fogs on and suddenly the lights went out. I found your post and I did your test and the low beams turn on in reverse. I still have no high beams either way and as soon as I take it out of reverse the low beams turn off again. Is that the starter button issue? If not, where should I go from there. FYI, I have the low beam cut off harness and the fog light reconfiguration harness installed but I eliminated both to see if they were the problem and unless it's a bad relay I still had the same problem, no lights at all. All my fuses are good. Thanks in advance.

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Re: No headlights

Postby themainviking » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:12 am

You should go directly to your dealership. Your bike is only one month old and is fully covered by warranty.
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Re: No headlights

Postby birddog » Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:09 pm

themainviking wrote:You should go directly to your dealership. Your bike is only one month old and is fully covered by warranty.

Well, I have now modified the vehicle with not only different bulbs but two harnesses that change the functionality of the motorcycle. Not only that, I live almost 90 miles away from the dealership that sold me the bike.
Either way, I'd still like to know what happened to the bike and where to go from my current predicament. I realize that the dealership is an option but thank you.

Techdude2000
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Re: No headlights

Postby Techdude2000 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:29 pm

"Assuming" the circuit for the lights is still the same as the 2013 model year, you need to check for power on the starter button switch on the brown/red wire with the key on. This power should also be present at the headlight adjuster relay under the seat. If it's there, then make sure it's passing through the switch to the blue/white wire with the switch released. If it's passing through the switch, then it's getting lost on the way to the dimmer switch and the reverse regulator assembly on the blue/white wire. If it's not there, then it's getting lost from the fuse up to the starter switch. Double check the "Head Main Fuse." The best way to check the fuse is to use a voltmeter with one lead on the negative battery terminal for ground and probe the little metal piece you can see on both sides of the fuse top. If it's good, there will be power on both sides. Keep in mind this fuse is dead until the key is turned on. If the fuse checks good, then check the connections for the brown/red and the blue/white wires at the 18 pin blue connector under the right fairing pocket in the white frame.

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Re: No headlights

Postby birddog » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:07 pm

Wow, now that's an informative response. Thank you for your time.

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Re: No headlights

Postby Techdude2000 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:12 pm

birddog wrote:Wow, now that's an informative response. Thank you for your time.


I like to be thorough. If you need more assistance or if my response was confusing, let me know and I will be glad to break it down. I do jump around on occasion. Good luck with finding the culprit.

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Re: No headlights

Postby birddog » Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:59 am

I had already checked the head main fuse by pulling it out and checking its continuity with an ohm meter. I believe I got the right fuse. It was a 30amp and square if my memory serves me correctly.

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Re: No headlights

Postby Techdude2000 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:50 am

birddog wrote:I had already checked the head main fuse by pulling it out and checking its continuity with an ohm meter. I believe I got the right fuse. It was a 30amp and square if my memory serves me correctly.


The square one is the ignition switch fuse (main fuse A), the Head Main Fuse is in the middle row of fuses and is a 10A. It the most likely culprit to kill all the headlights, second to a defective starter button switch.

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Re: No headlights

Postby birddog » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:11 pm

I must have missed it checking the fuses but I found the fuse you described and the lights came on, viola!! Now I also have high beam current in the switch but only the high beam on the right side is coming on. I read somewhere that the right side is part of a circuit but the left side is somewhat independent. SO my only issue is that the left high beam is not coming on. I'll need to check the current to the bulb and see if it has an open somewhere. If not, it may be the bulb itself. When I first noticed the lights off I walked around to the front of the bike and only the left high beam was on and it suddenly burned out as I watched it. It's obvious that something burned out.

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Re: No headlights

Postby birddog » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:39 pm

This is what I ran across.... The left side is not wired through the relay. I hope I didn't burn out the starter switch. Would the bike start if it was burned out? My bike starts. Only the left high beam is not turning on.


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Re: No headlights

Postby birddog » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:02 pm

I pulled my meter out and checked the current at the left high beam bulb and there IS current. Problem solved! Thanks to all that provided input. A special thank you Techdude2000!

Techdude2000
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Re: No headlights

Postby Techdude2000 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:41 pm

birddog wrote:I pulled my meter out and checked the current at the left high beam bulb and there IS current. Problem solved! Thanks to all that provided input. A special thank you Techdude2000!


You're welcome. Glad it was just the fuse and bulb. The bulb may have been defective and overloaded the fuse since the left one runs directly off of that fuse and the right one comes from the relay and a different fuse.




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