Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing


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Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby kit980 » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:28 pm



I have a new 2012 Goldwing and the grips and controls shake badly when going over small bumps in the road. The tire pressure is OK and it has done it from day one. When you look down at the grips they are just vibrating badly. I did not notice this when i rented a 2010 Wing and road it for about 4 hours. This is the first Wing that i have owned. Is this normal. I really expected a smoother ride. :cry:



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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby themainviking » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:43 am

You should have virtually NO vibration in your handlebars. Either the front tire needs balancing, or something is set up wrong in the front end. Perhaps some of the torquing was too tight or done in an incorrect order, like the axle pinch bolts and triple trees, or the steering head not tight enough. I would definitely get it into the dealership, as it is under warranty. If you are getting some miles on it, check out the front tire for cupping, which can be mitigated by adding a couple extra pounds of air to the front tire.
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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby kit980 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:33 am

Thanks, I will get it to the shop ASAP.

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby cbx4evr » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:46 pm

Good plan. If it's new it should be a warranty item.
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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby themainviking » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:47 pm

I had pretty much the same after putting a brand new tire on my GL1800, till today. Before setting out today, I added another ounce of dyna beads to my front tire and all is good now. Balancing is critical on a front tire.
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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby kit980 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:13 am

My Bike has been in the shop for 1 1/2 weeks and they have not found the problem. The shop has been talking with Honda Tech. Support to figure out the problem. I will let you know what they find. Man do I miss my Bike :cry:

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby Sally » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:28 pm

what about the rear tire ? most foget to check this also can cause a shake in front end.. Sally :lol:

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby peppilepew » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:33 pm

Take it to another shop.

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby themainviking » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:35 am

Yeah, you are up to three weeks in the shop now. If they have not found the problem, they are not going to. They are letting the bike sit till you get fed up and pick it up, it seems like. Perhaps another shop as Peppilepew mentioned?
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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby peppilepew » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:55 pm

Flat rate techs like I used to be have to go on. They have responsibilities, bills to pay and others to satisfy. Better to PO one customer than 10. If someone local has a dyno have it run up. Isolate the machine from any road induced vibration or front tire/wheel influence. If smooth on the dyno then front wheel. I feel for you. I have a 2012 and believe me when I tell you it is smooth as glass! Are bikes covered under your states lemon law, that is if you have a lemon law?

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby peppilepew » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:52 am

Has your bike been repaired yet?

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby kit980 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:13 pm

Not yet. I went to the dealer Saturday and Honda wants them to replace the front wheel assembly with one from a new bike on the showroom floor. I will know something Tuesday if that fixes the problem. The thing is the Dealer has to do the diagnosis in the order that Honda tells them too otherwise Honda will not cover it under warranty and the Dealer will have to eat the cost. If this doesn't fix the problem I will give Honda a call. I cannot fault the Dealer because they are only doing what Honda tells them to do. I saw a list of things that were checked but so far the front suspension has not been one of them. Hope to be riding soon.

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby 2manywings » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:05 pm

I've seen this on several new 1800s over the years. Some dealers will say it's normal... They all do it. What an explanation! I've corrected many 1800s with this problem by changing the steering head bearings to roller bearings (All Ball Upgrade)from the stock ball bearings. This is a controversial issue so all I'll say is that it's worked with great success for me. I don't think your dealer is going to do this under warranty, because they are not Honda bearings. There is a lot of info on the net regarding this... Do your homework and decide wisely. Good Luck!

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby kit980 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:13 am

The dealer called me and said that it worked. They ordered a new wheel and bearings which have come in and put on the bike. They test drove it and said that it is ready. I will pick it up Saturday the 28th. I will let you know the outcome. I will have my fingers crossed.

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby peppilepew » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:41 am

why didn't they just leave the wheel assy from the other bike on yours? :roll: Order a new tire and be done with it. Let us know. Hopefully it is fixed and they are not just trying to be rid of it.

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby wing rider 2012 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:17 pm

I've got a 2012 and haven't had any problems with it, some guys are having wobble problems and hesitation issues on the new 2012 and 2013's. Hope your problem is fixed with the wheel assembly replacement.
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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby peppilepew » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:19 am

wing rider 2012 wrote:I've got a 2012 and haven't had any problems with it, some guys are having wobble problems and hesitation issues on the new 2012 and 2013's. Hope your problem is fixed with the wheel assembly replacement.


1800's like the 15 chew tires for lunch. My 12 at 4500 miles is developing a shimmy from tire wear. Time for dynabeads. His problem was probably an out of round tire, slipped belt or wobbly rim right from the factory. There is a well known shop down the street that has a balancer with a wobbly shaft. :? Friend of mine brought his Harley in 2 times for rebalance and found the shaft bent himself. The owner paid no attention. Garbage in, garbage out. Sure would be nice to hear from wing rider as to what the test drive was like after the wheel replacement.

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby kit980 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:53 am

It's not fixed as of yet. I checked around with a few dealers here in Houston and talked to one who showed some know how. I had one shop foreman who wouldn't even come out to look at or test ride the bike. He just told the girl at the desk to tell me that he could get any Goldwing off the showroom floor and it would do the same thing. I just got on my bike and left. The dealer that I did take it to got all the information from me over the phone and asked me to bring it in. He took it for a ride and said its like riding a bike with two sticks for forks because the fork travel is limited and very harsh. They disassembled the front forks and found one fork had a little too much oil in it and replaced the seals. I went there and road it. It was a little better but not like it is suppose to be. He then told me he thought the same thing and he had already called Honda Tech support to see what step they should take next. I am hoping they will replace both front fork assembly's. The Honda rep called me Friday afternoon and said that they will try their best to have the bike ready next week :?: My fingers are crossed.

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby peppilepew » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:57 am

kit980 wrote:It's not fixed as of yet. I checked around with a few dealers here in Houston and talked to one who showed some know how. I had one shop foreman who wouldn't even come out to look at or test ride the bike. He just told the girl at the desk to tell me that he could get any Goldwing off the showroom floor and it would do the same thing. I just got on my bike and left. The dealer that I did take it to got all the information from me over the phone and asked me to bring it in. He took it for a ride and said its like riding a bike with two sticks for forks because the fork travel is limited and very harsh. They disassembled the front forks and found one fork had a little too much oil in it and replaced the seals. I went there and road it. It was a little better but not like it is suppose to be. He then told me he thought the same thing and he had already called Honda Tech support to see what step they should take next. I am hoping they will replace both front fork assembly's. The Honda rep called me Friday afternoon and said that they will try their best to have the bike ready next week :?: My fingers are crossed.


Are you removing your hands from the handle bars? My 2012 has a firmer suspension than the 1200 and 1500's. I would ask the dealer to test drive another 2012 to see if the foreman was telling you the truth. Unfortunately most own their bike before riding. We are then at the mercy of the selling dealer, Honda and any other involved in the post sale market. I feel for you on this having had a few issues myself with the selling dealer in PA. It would be better to find out if the condition you are experiencing is indeed a characteristic of the Japanese made model. The 2010 may have been a little different. I don't know.

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby 2manywings » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:18 am

Is the front end stock? Has anyone totally disassembled the front end to verify that everything is within spec? Has anyone looked at the operation of the anti-dive mechanism? I realize that this is a fairly new machine, but I've seen several Wings come out of the factory with issues such as this. At some point, "everything needs to be verified".
The anti-dive valve is designed to keep the front end from diving under hard braking situations. I've seen these valve stick in activated position which will keep the front end from compressing under normal conditions (causes the front end to feel very stiff, fence feeling every little bump in the road).
If it were mine, I'd do a total tear down and inspection. But a very simple test of the anti dive valve is to seperate the actuator from the valve assy. and take it for a ride. The valve is attached to the front of the left fork leg and the actuator has a brake hose going to the top of it and is fastened to the valve with two allen head bolts that go in from the top. No fluids will leak out, so you can just seperate the actuator from the valve, strap it to the fork leg, and go for a ride. It very common to either modify or totally disable this valve (both are very simple to do), but you'll never hear this from a dealer, because they go strictly by the book.
Please understand... This is just one Possibility of many issues! But I've seen this problem before. Someone needs to bite the bullet and do a complete inspection of all components including the anti-dive.
Do a simple Google search of your problem (GL1800 stiff ride) and you'll see how common this is and some more possible solutions. Good luck, and PM me if I can be of assistance

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby peppilepew » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:32 am

2manywings wrote:Is the front end stock? Has anyone totally disassembled the front end to verify that everything is within spec? Has anyone looked at the operation of the anti-dive mechanism? I realize that this is a fairly new machine, but I've seen several Wings come out of the factory with issues such as this. At some point, "everything needs to be verified".
The anti-dive valve is designed to keep the front end from diving under hard braking situations. I've seen these valve stick in activated position which will keep the front end from compressing under normal conditions (causes the front end to feel very stiff, fence feeling every little bump in the road).
If it were mine, I'd do a total tear down and inspection. But a very simple test of the anti dive valve is to seperate the actuator from the valve assy. and take it for a ride. The valve is attached to the front of the left fork leg and the actuator has a brake hose going to the top of it and is fastened to the valve with two allen head bolts that go in from the top. No fluids will leak out, so you can just seperate the actuator from the valve, strap it to the fork leg, and go for a ride. It very common to either modify or totally disable this valve (both are very simple to do), but you'll never hear this from a dealer, because they go strictly by the book.
Please understand... This is just one Possibility of many issues! But I've seen this problem before. Someone needs to bite the bullet and do a complete inspection of all components including the anti-dive.
Do a simple Google search of your problem (GL1800 stiff ride) and you'll see how common this is and some more possible solutions. Good luck, and PM me if I can be of assistance


2 many wings, I think getting someone that really gives a **** is his problem. They are wearing him down by tying up his new bike so he can't use it and that may cause him to just settle with it the way it is. If there is a problem at all. He needs the reps full attention along with another new bike to ride and compare.

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby 2manywings » Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:02 pm

I agree, good customer service is so non-existent today, it makes me wonder how some places stay open.

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby kit980 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:02 pm

They did inspect the anti dive and said that it was working fine. I will hear from them Tuesday at the earliest. I am keeping my fingers X.

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby peppilepew » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:58 pm

Any word from the techs as to cause?

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Re: Handle bar shake on a 2012 Goldwing

Postby kit980 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:14 pm

I got a call this evening that they replaced the Axel. I am going tomorrow afternoon and ride it. I am keeping my fingers crossed.




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