Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800


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Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby mcbrown » Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:58 am



Here I am standing on the freeway at 8:45pm with my Goldwing going nowhere with ceased brakes. Left home with everything ok. Entered the freeway and could not go any faster than 100km (65mph). Released the throttle and opened it again but still cant get past 100km per hour then could smell something burning. Pulled over and sure enough brakes locked solid.

The thing that really bothers me is that I had my brakes checked under the brake recall and was given the all clear. Just thankful I didnt get thrown up the road. So just be aware although cleared under the recall it still may be a problem.

Maybe Honda should just replace them all anyway.

How much is a life worth.

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby mcbrown » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:39 pm

My Goldwing is still in the Honda dealers workshop and its been 5 days since my rear brake locked up. It appears they dont have the alignment tool to do the job and had to order one from the other side of Australia. They still haven't told me what has caused the problem yet so I wait in anticipation of getting my bike back next week. I will update when the problem is resolved.
Murray

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby thrasherg » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:58 pm

Looking forward to hearing what the cause was and how they fixed it?

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby mbuesing » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:16 am

thrasherg wrote:Looking forward to hearing what the cause was and how they fixed it?

Gary


Same here.
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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby Peteswing » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:20 am

There was a recall here in the US for that very problem. I would thing this will be covered by Honda good luck.

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby mcbrown » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:49 am

Rang the Honda dealer today to see what was happening with my bike and they are still waiting for the alignment tool from Honda Australia. Its now 8 days since I had it delivered to their workshop. They have assured me that it will be covered by warranty.
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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby themainviking » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:38 am

Was the recall for the secondary master cylinder done on this bike prior to your having problems?
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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby Red Ron » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:44 am

mcbrown wrote:Rang the Honda dealer today to see what was happening with my bike and they are still waiting for the alignment tool from Honda Australia. Its now 8 days since I had it delivered to their workshop. They have assured me that it will be covered by warranty.
Murray


There is a special little tool used for checking the Sec. Master Cyl. but they shouldn't have to send to Australia to get it. Japan maybe. Makes me think it might be something else.

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby Red Ron » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:47 am

themainviking wrote:Was the recall for the secondary master cylinder done on this bike prior to your having problems?


Don't know if mcbrown knows or not but the dealer can check by the vin. Also they put a little punch mark on the engine block on the right side under the coverclose to the main rear brake cylinder.

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby themainviking » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:25 pm

themainviking wrote:Was the recall for the secondary master cylinder done on this bike prior to your having problems?


My Bad... I went back and looked at mcbrown's first post, and he stated the recall was done. Hmmmm, curiouser and curiouser..... :mrgreen:
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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby Red Ron » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:14 am

I remember when I took mine in for the recall I asked the tech "If it checks ok now will it stay that way or can it still go bad later?" He said just because it is ok now does not mean it can't go bad later. He also said it should be covered in that case.

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby mcbrown » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:03 am

The saga continues...

Received a phone call from the Honda dealer this morning saying the "special alignment tool" which they ordered from Honda Australia went to Queensland instead of Western Australia where I am. Thats 3,000 miles away on the other side of the country. It will be 2 weeks tomorrow since my bike went in for the brake repair under warranty which should have taken 2-3 days to fix. My warranty runs out this month so I will be asking for an extension due to the fact that through Honda's incompetence I have been unable to utilise my $35,000 motorcycle.

What think you???

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby themainviking » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:58 am

mcbrown wrote:The saga continues...

Received a phone call from the Honda dealer this morning saying the "special alignment tool" which they ordered from Honda Australia went to Queensland instead of Western Australia where I am. Thats 3,000 miles away on the other side of the country. It will be 2 weeks tomorrow since my bike went in for the brake repair under warranty which should have taken 2-3 days to fix. My warranty runs out this month so I will be asking for an extension due to the fact that through Honda's incompetence I have been unable to utilise my $35,000 motorcycle.

What think you???


I think perhaps you should investigate the extended warranty. I am doing that right at this time. Honda of Canada has a program beginning the first of this month that discounts the extended warranties. Depending on the discount, I may take advantage of it. I would never pay the full pop for it though. It is a gamble right? If I buy it, I am betting I will need it. If I don't buy it, I am almost guaranteed to need it - :lol:
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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby mcbrown » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:19 am

The problem here in Australia is we have to purchase the extended warranty at the time of purchasing the bike according to the Honda dealer.

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby Red Ron » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:37 pm

If it is being taken care of through the recall, the warranty or lack of it wouldn't be a factor.

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby themainviking » Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:05 am

mcbrown wrote:The problem here in Australia is we have to purchase the extended warranty at the time of purchasing the bike according to the Honda dealer.


Well, I cannot say you are wrong, as you are the one speaking with your dealer, but it seems rather unfair doesn't it? We can purchase extendeds up until the last day of the factory warranty. This seems to apply to every manufacturer of every automotive vehicle sold here. I guess we are lucky that way. We should be, as we cannot ride 24/7/365 like Redial tells us you all can. :lol:
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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby spitfire9au » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:34 am

I see there's another thread just been started on this very problem, beginning to get scary. Any news yet Browny?

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby mcbrown » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:53 pm

No Jeff, still no info from Honda yet so hoping something will happen this week. This coming Tuesday it will be 3 weeks since I put it into the Honda worshop for repairs which should only be a 2-3 day turn around. Getting very frustrated with the whole Honda process or should I say incompetence.
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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby spitfire9au » Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:57 am

That does suck. If its any help you are more than welcome to borrow mine till you get yours back. It's fully insured and we've got no shortage of other bikes to use.

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby mcbrown » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:48 pm

Hi Jeff,
Thanks for the offer but I'm hoping for a resolution this week. Have just called the Honda workshop and let them know in no uncertain terms that this has p****d me off and that 3 weeks waiting for a basic repair is totally unacceptable. Just my luck that the boss and 2nd in command are out at the moment. The next call will be to Honda Australia if they dont get back to me this afternoon.
There is a saying. "Patience is a virtue. Possess it if you can". I am trying so damn hard.

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby mcbrown » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:15 am

Almost there, I think.
Honda have informed me today that the secondary master cylinder has been replaced but now they have found that the primary master cylinder is not able to maintain braking pressure and the brake pedal slowly goes down (as I reported at the 18000km service). They did change the fluid at that time which seemed to improve it but still not 100%. They attempted to replace the seals but have now decided to install a new one which has to be ordered from Honda Australia. Its day 25 now since the bike was sent to Honda dealer. Looks like being at least another week.

The workshop manager was very apologetic and said the time span was unacceptable and I totally agreed with him. Asked about an extended warranty due to the bike being in their workshop for so long (expired yesterday 12th Sept) but was told Honda would not do that but they would do a "deal of good faith" if anything went wrong outside of this brake issue whereby they would put a case to Honda for approval.

Hopefully next week I will have my bike back.

Murray

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby thrasherg » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:36 am

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.. That's a long wait just for a minor brake issue.

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby spitfire9au » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:50 am

Lets hope there's light at the end of the tunnel. When our engine died on the brand new ute it was only 10 days from the day Gae drove it into the dealer till the day we drove out with a brand new engine. Not to mention the hire car and various other sweeteners that Mits didn't really have to do. If they can do it, why can't Honda?
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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby mcbrown » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:02 am

Finally got my Wing back yesterday 25th September after delivering it to the Honda dealer on the 20th August (5 weeks and 1 day) for repair of the rear brake lock up. It seems that Honda's supply chain here in Australia is not very good. They did replace the secondary master cylinder with a new one but then found that the master cylinder was not available in Australia and it would be a 2 month wait for it to be delivered from elsewhere?? So they rebuilt my master cylinder by putting in new seals etc.

Rode it home without any problems and then decided to ride it to work that night. Now I find that the rear brake chatters and makes the whole bike vibrate. It doesnt seem to do it every time and usually only when I'm slowing down for traffic lights.

I haved called them and said I'm bringing it back tomorrow to see if they can rectify the problem.

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Re: Brakes locked up on 2010 GL1800

Postby mbuesing » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:56 pm

Not good. :x I can only think of one person to wish your luck to on this.
Hang in their. (sorry you don't have a choice do you) :(


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