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Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby Boondoc88@gmail.com » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:09 pm



Does anyone know if it is possible to add an airbag system to my 2012 GW1800 ABS model?
Looks like sensors could be added to the front fork and an ECU, inflator and airbag could be added to the front glove box.
I don't know if it would practical or what it would cost, just wondering if it could be done.
Thanks,
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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby cbx4evr » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:25 pm

Doubt very many have tried doing it. You can price out the parts online. I think after you do that you may change your mind.
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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby themainviking » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:17 am

As the controls are all in different places on the Airbag model, and the assembly is quite different, I do not believe it would be feasable. Adding the wheel sensors is the easy part. You would need to totally reposition all the other stuff under the shelter, AND buy all new shelter plastic and control modules so as to hook it all up. The Airbag sits right on top where your button panel is now, and your button panel needs to go to the left side. The airbag model also does not have a right hand glove pocket as that is where the suspension controls end up. It has to be possible to do, as Honda did it, but the mechanics of it would be way too much for me, I know. I have an Airbag model wing, and even changing the Air Filter adds 1-2 hours to a regular wing.
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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby Boondoc88@gmail.com » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:52 am

Thanks Viking, but I think you are referring to earlier model GW's.
Mine is a 2012 and I'm pretty sure all the controls you are referring to are in the right places.
My button panel is on the left, suspension controls are on the right (no right hand glove box) and directly in front of the gas fill is an additional lockable glove box where the airbag and inflator would go. The 2012 redesign is different from previous models, perhaps simplifying this retrofit.

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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby themainviking » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:24 pm

Hi Boondoc

Yes, I was referring to earlier models - mine is a 2009. I did not realize that they had redesigned the 2012 and newer to make it much easier (for them) to either have an airbag or to not have one. I made an assumption, thereby making an a?? of myself. Sorry for jumping in. My bad.
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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby Boondoc88@gmail.com » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:44 am

No worries brother. I always appreciate someone taking the time to try to help.

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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby vinlugg » Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:01 pm

Boondoc88@gmail.com wrote:Does anyone know if it is possible to add an airbag system to my 2012 GW1800 ABS model?
Looks like sensors could be added to the front fork and an ECU, inflator and airbag could be added to the front glove box.
I don't know if it would practical or what it would cost, just wondering if it could be done.
Thanks,
John


Three things, One, I think it can be done. two, I agree with others, it will cost a small forture.....and three, how do you know for sure it will work?? Honda isn't going to help just because of the liability possibilities. I'd rather trade up for a factory equipped unit. Just my opinion bro.
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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby Boondoc88@gmail.com » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:28 am

I agree with you Vin,
Just got interested in the possibility after a friend recently got an 08 airbag model for his wife. They were telling my GF about all the stats they had researched involving airbag GWs and how well the riders faired. One guy doing about 40 T- boned a cage wearing no helmet and no gear, and walked away with a bruised ankle. Supposedly Honda downplayed this event not wanting to advocate irresponsible riders relying on the airbag to save their a_ _ .
I'm an ATGATT rider, but got interested in the possibility after watching some of the videos on YouTube.
My GF said that she would rather foot the bill for the conversion than pay potentially thousands in medical bills and home bills if I was out of wk for a while with injuries.
I figured I probably wasn't the only one who was curious.
Just got my 2012 last year as a leftover and have invested too much money customizing it. I would take a beating trying to trade up to a new one. This bike was supposed to last me 20 years till I got older and then I was planning to convert it into a trike

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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby vinlugg » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:21 am

Boondoc,

Interesting thoughts but my biggest concern would be "will it really work". Let us know what you decide. It would be interesting to follow.
"ATGATT rider".....what is this?

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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby harvey01 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:59 pm

I suspect it would be cheaper and a whole lot easier to just trade your Wing for an airbag model!
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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby Boondoc88@gmail.com » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:05 pm

All The Gear All The Time! ATGATT! Having had a bad get off and some extremely painful road rash years ago, and a buddy who spent several weeks in a burn unit for the same reason, I never ride without gearing up.
Guess it's time to ask the Honda Dealer. Thought someone out there might have beat me to it.
I'll keep ya posted
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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby vinlugg » Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:44 am

Boondoc88@gmail.com wrote:All The Gear All The Time! ATGATT! Having had a bad get off and some extremely painful road rash years ago, and a buddy who spent several weeks in a burn unit for the same reason, I never ride without gearing up.
Guess it's time to ask the Honda Dealer. Thought someone out there might have beat me to it.
I'll keep ya posted
J



Yeh, I figured it out right after I replied. thanks. I do the same. Since I teach the course , I should practice what I teach and I had a real bad get off in 2007. If I hadn't had a helmet on the doc said my wife would've been planning my funeral instead of visiting me at the ER!!
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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby Boondoc88@gmail.com » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:09 pm

harvey01 wrote:I suspect it would be cheaper and a whole lot easier to just trade your Wing for an airbag model!

Doubt if it would be easier or cheaper to recustomize a new bike to the way I have it now. Plus I would lose too much on the trade in.
Really not an option for me, I'd just go without the airbag

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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby jeffcosmo » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:06 am

IF I were to attempt this, I'd first try to get a parts bike.

And, being a new bike, I'd try the insurance yards. There are two by me, they both have bikes, and they do sell whole vehicles to the public, with some caveats, which you can enquire after to see if they work for you.

This one is near me:
http://www.qcsadirect.com/#5056b19094bb ... 3dedcb15b9
And a couple others I found w/quickie search:
http://www.pickles.com.au/en_US/damaged-salvage
https://www.iaai.com/

Good luck.
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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby Boondoc88@gmail.com » Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:19 am

Hi Jeff,

I've bought parts machines before but in a situation like this I don't know if I would feel comfortable with that idea.
It seems to me that a compleat bike that's affordable would have had to be severely damaged in some ways in order to BE affordable. I would probably wind up with a lot of usable parts that I don't want/need and none of the parts that I do. The problem with a bike like that is that it is likely to have sustained significant damage to the very parts I would require, and whose to say if those parts would still work? Could I trust parts like a damaged or submerged fork sensor? Inflator? Airbag? ECU? individually? And, more importantly, How could I assess the integrity of those parts all working together perfectly at a critical instant?
I could see buying a wrecked parts bike to swap out an engine or if it had other damage like if it was submerged, to harvest body parts but not for something as complex as an airbag system that I was going trust my life with.

Haven't had a chance to visit my local Honda Dealer yet as I live about an hour away from civilization and the snow and ice has me concentrating on my snow machines right now. It will be interesting to get his take on the situation as well.
Thanks, I do appreciate your input.
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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby jeffcosmo » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:55 pm

Ummm, yeah. You see, insurance salvage bikes ARE bikes that have been damaged a lot. In fact, they're totals, which is why the insurance company owns them.

However, totals can happen in many ways. Yet, it sounds like you have talked yourself right out of this idea. I only put forth the whole idea because I have seen the bikes in the lots, and some, like mine, were totaled not because of a lot of damage, but because one or more parts necessary for repair were simply not available. The most damage to my bike was a slightly tweaked frame. Frame was not available, ergo, bike is totaled. Although it was probably rideable, with a slight tendency to go to one side.

Cosmo

P.S. As for affordable, get back to us after you've priced Genuine Honda parts. And that's only IF they'll actually sell you the parts, there may be some regs on selling air bags to a private party. Not bagging on you, but this whole idea is not affordable, unless you somehow get all the parts cheap.

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Re: Retrofit 2012 ABS to Airbag model

Postby Boondoc88@gmail.com » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:53 pm

I'm agreeing with you on that last thought.
This whole idea came about as a "wonder if you could retrofit your ABS into an airbag" question.
Brought it into the forum cause I figured I wasn't the only one curiuos about it.
Don't know if it would be possible for many reasons or what it might cost.
I'm going to find out just for "shiggles"
I'll keep everyone posted




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