I have a Question about an MP3 player.


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I have a Question about an MP3 player.

Post by Wingrider44 » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:45 pm



This is the mp3 player I installed on my 2008 GL1800 with Navi but no ABS. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/USB-CD-Changer-i ... 5b4&_uhb=1
The items works great but it has the flashing "No Disc" problem. I can get it to display properly if I load music on only the root directory of the SD card and no more than 99 songs. It will display as CD0, the Track number and the playing time. If I go to another directory, such as CD02, I receive the flashing "No Disc" error again. My iPod Touch playes through it perfectly but again I get the flashing "No Disc" error as my display.
I understand that the BikeMP3 V3 does the same thing with the Honda Navi units. So you have to buy a "dongle" which resets the Honda radio system. Has anyone been able to find a solution as a work around? I could purchase the Dongle from BikeMP3 for $19.00 but it would not be plug compatible. The output plug on my unit is like an HDMI cable plug. Which means that I would have to purchase a compatible cable for the Dongle as well.
I know that I could most likely fix it with getting rid of my player and purchasing the BikeMP2 unit with the reset dongle. But that's $40 more and I'm cheap. And it has peaked my curiosity. There is something about the difference in the way the Honda CD player initializes the radio between the Navi bikes and the Non Navi bikes. And my current player isn't doing it quite right. Also, with the Navi bikes the BikeMP3 player will only handle 6 "CDs" but with the non Navi bikes it will handle 9 "CDs". Each "CD" to handle 99 "tracks". This is due to the Honda CD display only handling single digit "CD" and two digit "Tracks".
Any discussion/advice/knowledge about this would be gratefully accepted.


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Re: I have a Question about an MP3 player.

Post by themainviking » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:37 pm

I have an 09 Canadian Navi with ABS, which is the same as the 08 US model bike. I have a J&M version of MP3 player, and it does not do this. Also, I seem to be able to put 99 tunes per folder including root. I understood that this number of tunes limitation was not due to NAVI/Non NAVI bikes, but more due to 08 Models as opposed to newer than 08. The 09 and 10 Canadian models have the same electronics as the 08 US model. Only the U.S. got updated stereo systems in 2009 and 2010. I cannot attest to others than J&M.
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Re: I have a Question about an MP3 player.

Post by artgrantz » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:15 pm

I just plug the audio jack into my iPod and hit PLAY on the iPod and AUX on the radio. I can't control which songs it plays but they are all songs that I like because I'm the one who put them on there. I can control the volume via the radio controls.

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Re: I have a Question about an MP3 player.

Post by Wingrider44 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:05 pm

I already use the Auxiliary for my XM Radio. The point to having a device like the MP3 player I have is so that you can control the selection of music. The CD function of the bike shows little enough information on the screen. In many respects the electronics on the Goldwing are very antiquated. Be that as it may, it's just a little frustrating that if I load a USB memory device with 99 tracks of music in the root directory it shows CD0 and the track number and playing time counting. (In other words, it's nearly working as it should.) It should be able to distinguish between directories and read them as CDs (up to a minimum of 6 which is the number of CDs the OEM CD Changer holds). After all, that's the way the player is programmed. I just wonder what happens in the Honda radio system that needs to be initialized to have it recognize the player as the CD Changer like it does on the no Navi Models. :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: I have a Question about an MP3 player.

Post by PastoT » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:39 am

I have the same exact player. I've had some issues with it reading thumb drives consistently. First thing I found is never press AD SEl/RDM on your radio while in CD mode, you will have to reset the radio (pulling fuse 21 & 22 for several minutes to regain control, its common with these players). Make sure the connector to the bike is securely connected to the CD wire jack. Its more likely the connecting wire into the MCARCDC itself, road vibration will wiggle the connection loose if the wire hangs from the device, I disconnect it with the power off and reconnect probably once a month as I get it snagged on things moving about in the trunk. I've had an ongoing issue swapping thumb drives it seems to work ok if you select FM then power down the bike, swap drives and then power up and select CD; though it seems to get a bit confused at first try changing CD from the controls once and wait for it to rescan the thumb drive. honestly this is a mediocre device and though it works and is cheap it will still occasionally stop reading for a couple seconds like somebody hit pause. I honestly think there is an issue with the device that makes it sensitive to vibration, probably the wire or thumb drive connection. The manner in which you load the music and the format the music is recorded will help a lot.

I have tried several means to load music and a variety of folder structures. here are a few things I've found helpful. First all music is MP3 format and encoded at 128bit, high rates seam to cause memory issues (too dense a data stream I think). I use MP3 Gain to adjust the volumes to 90% so they all have a consistent volume. You won't need large memory devices, 4gb will be fine, anything larger seems to cause problems and are a waste. Not all Thumb drives are the same, if you go really cheap the memory chip delivers the data slow so get a good name brand drive and stick with it if it works ( I use 3 16gb drives and they are less than half used). Format the memory device you are using to ensure no manufacturer files or programs are present, I had to use Windows Vista to format in Fat32. I load the first group of files comprising CD 1 onto the root of the memory drive. Then name folders CD2 thru CD6 (I have used up to 20 folders CD01-C20 but it was hard to tell what I was listening to and my 2002 only displayed up to CD 9). I load each folder CD2 thru CD6 sequentially with the music that will comprise each of the remaining CDs. I built the list for each CD in folders on my computer and preceded the song filenames with numbers 01 thru 99 to match the order I wanted them to play, then copied each CD to the thumb drive starting with CD1 to the root, CD2 to the CD2 folder and so on.
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Re: I have a Question about an MP3 player.

Post by DoctorBob » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:11 am

I have been trying to resolve the MP3 player issue for some time & stumbled apon a very simple player recently that works a treat, is simple & portable with ton's of room (32GB usb stick or card) to fit all the music you could ever want & more. So I bought one of these players & loaded in a 32GB stick with 4600 odd songs & took it to work, plugged into the prime mover of my road train & left it running, I then tuned in the radio of the Loader I was using to load my truck & picked up the music from the player with enough range to listen to my music in the loader from the truck & to get to the stockpile & to the rear trailer (53m long truck) without loss of stereo music.

Brilliant it works...

So how this little sucker works is it transmits the music from the player in FM stereo at a frequency of your choosing ie 87.9 thru to 107.9 on FM which you tune your FM radio into & you have all your music crystal clear via FM. Its range is ok but perfect for the job required, even on a vechicle with a damaged ariel your radio will still pick it up. As I have proven I can pick the transmitter up in a loader 60m away while loading my trailers, although it's getting a little scratchy by then.

So I plugged it into my GL1800 the next time I went riding & instead of listening to cd's I just tuned in the radio & away I went... Only draw back is you need a 12/24v power point to plug into ie a cigar lighter to get it running, now being a smoker I have one fitted already, but it could be rigged up via a 12v socket wired into the trunk etc to keep it out of the rain. If the unit has a power loss, as soon as the power is restored the unit recalls the volume, track, FM frequency that was last used. So turning off the key & on again it just kicks off from where it was. Basically set & forget it in the trunk.

I have had my unit running for months in my road train in hot, rough, dusty off-road conditions & it just keeps on doing its thing, then pull it out & plug it into the bike & away it goes again happily.

The next time I went past the place I bought the unit, I stopped & bought 3 more in case they decide to stop making them in the future (They call it progress apparantly) & I couldnt get them again. This is the base model, it's just a player but the next model up in the range has a built in bluetooth to connect up your phone but is accordingly more expensive as well. Because I work in remote locations with no radio stations available, cd's wont stand up to the rough dusty conditions so these little players are just the answer, no skipping as with cd's etc & they are cheap.. $15 for the unit.

Don't know where these would be available outside Austraila, but I have left a link to look at the product if it's of interest.




https://www.jaycar.com.au/fm-transmitte ... .../AR3136

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Re: I have a Question about an MP3 player.

Post by PastoT » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:46 pm

I Googled around and found a working link in Australia, ( https://www.jaycar.com.au/fm-transmitte ... l/p/AR3136). However the same company (Jaycar) seems to have US locations from which they have a large inventory of things. Low and behold the US counterpart URL https://www.jaycar.us/fm-transmitter-wi ... l/p/AR3136

I think in the states many GL1800 riders have installed an MP3 player to the CD connection but of course its pricier and not portable at all. The newer 1800s and to 2018 have this feature natively, but on older beloved models this might be a simple alternative, at $10-15 USD that sounds like a deal. There are very similar devices available by a multitude of manufacturers but I've never known anyone who could speak of their experience. Thanks for the information Mate.

If I'm not mistaken there are several makes that are blue tooth enabled as well that accept a couple SD card sizes and thumb drives. I just can't remember where I ran across them.
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Re: I have a Question about an MP3 player.

Post by DoctorBob » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:13 am

I'm glad the info was of help Tom, in the past I have tried various other types with little or no success. Either they had a fool of a menu system & every time you turn the vechicle off they went back to the start of the play list & you couldn't select a random play list of either that folder or the device. Thats where this unit shines, it simply picks up from where it last was.

Another brand I tried worked ok til the battery went flat & I plugged it into the usb charging port to charge, I then got "feed back" via the altenator & could hear it whine over the aux input, but I soon learned that wasn't the worst that could happen.... I pulled in for fuel therefore turning the bike off, restarted the bike & got back on my merry way... Hang on why have I got no sound???

Crud I just cooked the MP3 player because as soon as I hit the starter button, the starter dragged power from "ALL" battery sources, MP3 player included LOL, lost 2 that way.

With 32GB you can load a LOT of music.. with the present songs on mine it will play for just over 3 week before I hear the first song again playing 14+ hrs a day, better than any radio station & no ad's.

I didn't know Jaycar was outside Aussie but it makes it easy for you folk in US to get & they are cheaper for you as well, bonus.



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