2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?


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2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby Wingsconsin » Mon May 11, 2015 2:54 pm



ON my GL1500's I buy oil and filters from Wal*mart .
I use the Purolater 14610 or 14612's and they work fine.
Can the 1800 use the same filter ?
Or is there another cross-over number I need to remember ...?

Oil I have figured out -- so just offer you thoughts on filters please. :D


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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby harvey01 » Mon May 11, 2015 4:40 pm

I prefer the Honda filter, buy online and have a supply on hand but then I use them on my Gl1800 and VTX 1300.

I suppose you could do a search on Google for oil filters for the GL1800. I know you can do a search on Amazon and the usual ones from K&N, Mobile 1, Fram, Emco and Honda will show up.

I thought I had a cross reference sheet showing what would fit the GL1800 but cannon find it.
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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby ranger 3 » Mon May 11, 2015 6:05 pm

I use a Fran PH6017A from walmart.

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby Red Ron » Mon May 11, 2015 8:23 pm

The 14612's even though a little shorter work better because they fit better. They fit even better on the 2012's and later because there seems to be even a little less room. There has been some discussion suggesting that cheaper white filters are better for our bikes than the more expensive yellow ones.

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby WingAdmin » Tue May 12, 2015 9:56 am

As a kid, I used Fram filters on everything because they're what my dad used, and were quality. That's no longer the case, Fram are pretty much the bottom of the barrel when it comes to filter quality.

NAPA Gold filters are very good, but honestly, I just spend the couple extra bucks and buy Honda filters - which are also of high quality.

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby themainviking » Tue May 12, 2015 11:17 am

Probably the best quality filters available are Amsoil, Mobil One, and Purolator Pure One, in that order. EMGO are made by Fram in most cases. Anything manufactured by Donaldson will be good. Not everyone manufactures their own filters, but Donaldson makes most of the best Automotive filters, and Fram makes most of the least quality ones. Fram does make some reliable filters, especially the ones intended for use with synthetic oil, but they cost the same as the best filters on the market, so why not use the best and be sure. I do not know who manufactures Honda filters, but it is probably in Japan. Pretty much every vehicle manufacturer has their own branded filter, and all would be of decent quality.
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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby Wingsconsin » Tue May 12, 2015 11:30 am

Perhaps I should restate my question...
I have used for years and still own several Purolater 14610 or 14612's and they have worked fine -
I would like to use up the few I have --
IF THEY FIT on the GL1800 ..?
I think they will fit...
Can anyone confirm this ?

I know there are a lot of choices out there..but my question is about the Purolater ones listed...

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby WingAdmin » Tue May 12, 2015 1:41 pm

They may or may not fit just fine - but are they designed for the oil flow and pressure of the GL1800? Filters have a bypass built in that bypasses the filter element if the pressure is too high. I have no idea what the GL1800 pressure is compared to the GL1500, or if its flow rate is higher or lower, requiring more or less filter element area...but even if the filter physically screwed into place, I would likely just go ahead and buy the correct one for the bike. I'd rather spend a couple extra dollars to get the correct filter rather than risk thousands on my engine. That's just me.

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby Red Ron » Tue May 12, 2015 2:38 pm

Wingsconsin wrote:Perhaps I should restate my question...
I have used for years and still own several Purolater 14610 or 14612's and they have worked fine -
I would like to use up the few I have --
IF THEY FIT on the GL1800 ..?
I think they will fit...
Can anyone confirm this ?

I know there are a lot of choices out there..but my question is about the Purolater ones listed...

Thanks

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby Wingsconsin » Tue May 12, 2015 3:11 pm

Thanks Red Ron - I missed it when I was reading the forum on my cell phone..Small screen... :?
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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby cihilb » Wed May 13, 2015 10:23 am

If you do not mind spending the few extra bucks, why not stick with OEM? Even though some will argue the point, they are designed to work on the GL1800.

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby Wingsconsin » Wed May 13, 2015 10:30 am

It's really not about the money.
Buying from my local dealer is inconvenient as they are not anywhere near my house.
I have a Wal*mart on the way home everyday.
The money I save will buy gas.... and it's easy ....
I like easy.... as far as the Honda design teams knows best for their products....
Do you have any after market additions to your "Wing..?
Seats, wind wings, windscreens, gps, highway boards or pegs, trailer hitch, driving lights, brake light flasher, headlight modulator, etc.etc...
The list of modifications and non-oem products is nearly endless. And Honda didn't include these things...
The engineer design to a price point as well as minimum standards. Tires anyone?
How about frame welds ...
I think products that work outside of Honda engineering are fine...and if it saves me a few ¢ in the process I will take it...

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby cihilb » Wed May 13, 2015 12:06 pm

Yes I have a some aftermarket additions. However, none of these will affect my warranty or operation of the mechanical functions of my bike.
I always use OEM air and oil filters, Honda oil and brakes.
You can order OEM oil filters online and save a great deal over dealer prices. I order oil filters three at a time and they last me at least one season, they cost about $10 each. The OEM are built to Honda specs, valving and pressure. Not so with filters that are made for cars.
Personally, I will stick with OEM. The decision is yours.

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby WingAdmin » Wed May 13, 2015 12:17 pm

OEM filters $13.29 each on Amazon, buy two or more (or if you're already an Amazon Prime member) you get free shipping. And no sales tax!

http://www.amazon.com/Honda-OEM-Oil-Fil ... ingdocs-20

I get mine at Cyclemax for $10 each, but their storefront is 10 miles from my house, so there's no shipping cost there at all:

http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl1500_ ... 58741/4154

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby harvey01 » Wed May 13, 2015 1:02 pm

A big advantage to online suppliers, such as Cyclemax, Wingstuff, HDL, and others is shipping directly to your door. You don't have to stop on your way home from work, invest the gas oil and time parking and then going into the store, when the online seller will have the package delivered to your door. The key is to plan ahead and make the order large enough that you don't pay shipping. I will normally buy a case of oil, several air filters and several oil filters which is well over the normal limit.
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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby cihilb » Wed May 13, 2015 1:59 pm

I agree with online ordering. I use Wingstuff. $10.99 for the filters and $21.99 for a gallon of oil. Four Filters and four gallons of oil and you're set for a while. Plus free shipping over $99.
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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby Red Ron » Wed May 13, 2015 6:21 pm

It is a violation of federal law for a company to void a warranty if you don't use their oil filter. I might look it up later if I get bored. Also as many probably know, Honda doesn't make the Honda oil filters for our bikes. I might look the name of the company if I am still bored. I believe they make filters for other vehicles also. I am pretty sure the manufactuer has changed a time or two over the years. They probably use whomever can build to their specs the cheapest. The point being, sometime down the road, Honda might pay Puralator to paint the L14612 filter black and write Honda on it.

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby cihilb » Wed May 13, 2015 6:46 pm

That may be true for most vehicle applications. However, they can deny the warranty claim if the filter is not within the specs designated by the vehicle manufacturer. There are a few oil filter makers that are now marketing a filter specifically for motorcycles. The pressure relief and anti flow back are different for cars and motorcycles.

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby Red Ron » Thu May 14, 2015 11:09 am

cihilb wrote:That may be true for most vehicle applications. However, they can deny the warranty claim if the filter is not within the specs designated by the vehicle manufacturer. There are a few oil filter makers that are now marketing a filter specifically for motorcycles. The pressure relief and anti flow back are different for cars and motorcycles.


You are correct. I believe that is why the more expensive yellow purlator filter (Pure 1 i think) shouldn't be used. BTW I would like to know what those specs are if anyone knows. Might be handy down the road if anything ever came up with warranty.

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby Wingsconsin » Thu May 14, 2015 11:13 am

I often wonder if the Goldwing engine isn't more car than motorcycle anyway.
Liquid cooled, relatively low revving, high output, shaft drive --
More a 2 wheeled Accord than a CBR ...
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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby Red Ron » Thu May 14, 2015 11:36 am

I wonder if the specs of the filter are in the owner's manual. Looks like they would be obligated to inform one of the acceptable specs if they were going to hold your "feet to the fire" on the warranty.

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby Red Ron » Thu May 14, 2015 11:43 am

This is the cross reference chart for the 1800 that we have seen many times on other sites. Looks like the by pass for these filters are 14psi.

These Oil Filters
have 20 x 1.5mm threads,
14 psi by-pass valve,
anti-drain back valve,
2.3" O.D. gasket
2.5" to 3.5" long.
If you have the room, I recommend the longer filters.
Motorcycle Filters.
None are recommended.

AC Delco PF2135
AMSOil SMF103
Carquest 85358
AC Delco PF2135
FRAM PH6017A
Honda 15410-MCJ-000
K&N KN-204, about $13. Metric nut on end for easy removal.
NAPA Gold 1358
Purolator ML16817. Imported, not made by Purolator.
STP SMO 17
WIX 51358
Recommended filters.
All have superior
filtering.

About 2.5 inches long.
Purolator Pure One PL14612, about $6.
Mobil M1-108, about $12.
Made by Champion.
Bosch 3300, about $6.
Made by Champion.
Wal-Mart SuperTech ST6607
Made by Champion.

About 3.25 inches long.
Purolator Pure One PL14610, about $6.
Mobil 1 M1-110, about $10.
Made by Champion.
Bosch 3323, about $6.
Made By Champion.
WalMart SuperTech ST7317,
about $2. Made by Champion.
Automobile Filters,
about 2.5 inches long.
AC Delco PF1237
Baldwin B1400
Firestone TF2876
Hastings LF113
NAPA Gold 1365
Purolator L14612
STP S-02876
WalMart SuperTech ST6607
WIX 51365
Automobile Filters,
about 3.25 inches long.
AC Delco PF-2057
Auto Pro 2356
Autopride CF240AP
Baldwin B1402
Carquest 85356
Carquest Red B4620
Casite CF240
Castrol 7317
Champion Labs Ph2867
Defense Filters Dl7317
Deutsch D-370
Federated Filters LF240F
Fram Double Guard DG7317
Fram PH7317
Automobile Filters,
about 3.25 inches long.
Fram Tough Guard TG7317
Fram Xtra Guard XG7317
Group 7 V4610
Group 7 V4620
Hastings LF240
Mighty M4612
Millard ML-3593
Motorcraft Long Life FL-821
Napa FIL1356
Napa Gold 1356
Parts Plus PH2867
Pennzoil PZ-109
Penske 7317
Powerflo SL14610
Powerflo SL14620
Pro Gauge PGO-4620
Pro Tec 164
Promotive PH4610
Pronto PO3593A
Purolator L14610
Service Champ OF-4622
Shell SH48
Shell SH529
Stp S-02867.
Valvoline VO50
Warner PH2867
Wix 51356

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby Red Ron » Thu May 14, 2015 12:01 pm

I just noticed that the OEM filter (Honda 15410-MCJ-000) is on the above list as being 14 psi by-pass just like all of the car oil filters on the cross-reference chart. Also found it interesting that the Honda 15410-MCJ-000 filter appears to be used in Honda lawnmowers and other equipment.

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Re: 2002 GL1800 Oil Change time -- Filter options?

Postby WingAdmin » Thu May 14, 2015 1:14 pm

Wingsconsin wrote:I often wonder if the Goldwing engine isn't more car than motorcycle anyway.
Liquid cooled, relatively low revving, high output, shaft drive --
More a 2 wheeled Accord than a CBR ...


The manufacturing and fitment tolerances in the Goldwing engine (and most any motorcycle engine, save for <cough> Harley) are far higher than most any automobile engine.




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