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captaindan
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New tires

Postby captaindan » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:18 pm



Sorry to start another topic on tires, but needing a new rear on my 06 1800 and I really didn't find anything recent.
Now I have run Dunlops for 30+ years on my GW's. I was wondering if anyone has tried the Michelin commander II. I like the E3's but I am always looking if there is an improvement. From what I have learned this is a somewhat new tire. I live in Kansas so cornering is not a concern believe me.:D My goal would be higher mileage and still keep adequate traction on wet roads.
My questions/concerns,
The tire that fits the GW is a bias tire. Seems to me a step backward to go from a radial to a bias ply.
If I do go bias ply, will it affect the fact I am running a Dunlop radial on the front.
Thirdly, has anyone tried this tire and are you happy with it.
I guess if I'm not convinced it's back to the Dunlop.
Now I would like to hear from those that have actual experience with something similar. And NO I'm not going to a car tire.:D
If anyone has strayed from the Dunlops and returned to it, or likes another brand better, I'm all ears. As I said I have run nothing but Dunlops for 30+ (habitual) so I'd like to hear from you guys that are more daring than I.



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Re: New tires

Postby themainviking » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:43 pm

It has always been my information that you do not run a bias tire on the rear with a radial on the front. Apparently the reverse can be done, as evidenced by radial car tires on the rear and bias battleaxe tires on the front, but I doubt if it is recommended by motorcycle manufacturers or insurance companies. I have also not heard of bias tires being recommended for the GL1800 at all. I could be incorrect in this, and I am sure if I am, someone will lash me for it.

Tires I liked. Avon Venom, however, the rear suffered tread seperation after only 5-6K miles. Metzler 880, which now have an 888 specific to Goldwings, Dunlop D250s which were the OEM tire for my 2009 GL1800. I did NOT like the Elite III tires. My next tires will be Metzler 888s. Cannot recommend them as I have not yet tried them.
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captaindan
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Re: New tires

Postby captaindan » Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:09 am

Viking, what is it that you don't like about the Elite III's

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Re: New tires

Postby themainviking » Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:30 am

captaindan wrote:Viking, what is it that you don't like about the Elite III's


Cupping, handling on roads with rain grooving, overall feel unless aired up to 45 lbs or more, and tread wearout speed. I got very poor service from Elite III tires. About 9K miles on the rear. So far, the best tire I have had for longevity has been the Dunlop D250, but they are definitely not the best handling or riding tire. Best handling/riding tire goes to the Avons, but the rear tire belt seperation takes them out of the running. Avon denied ever having a belt seperation problem, but a google search brought up all kinds of info on it, and Avon reformulated the tire in question to handle more weight. I would try them again, but I had to fight with them for warranty. I wish Michelin made their new tire in a radial.

I have to say, with the difficulty in finding overall decent tires for these big bikes, I am about to try the dark side.
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Re: New tires

Postby becken » Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:26 am

I have been reading some very good reviews of the Metzler 888s and will probably be replacing my Dunlops with them over the winter.

captaindan
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Re: New tires

Postby captaindan » Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:12 am

Viking, I tend to agree a bit. The cupping I was able to deter when I started running dynabeads. Also, my mileage increased with the beads. I am just hitting my wear bars @ 16250 miles. A lot of my riding is within 200 miles so I'm not loaded down in touring mode all the time. I totally agree on the handling especially on rough roads. (cracks, tar snakes etc). I never really gave it much thought until I started spending way to much time on this forum. :D The 888 sounds like a good tire and beckon, I too have read some good reviews. Viking, do you think running my Dunlop on the front and this 888 would cause any problems? You seem to have well thought out and factual replies. I'm intrigued by the 888.

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Re: New tires

Postby harvey01 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:30 am

captaindan,

The GL1800 is designed for radial tires front and rear. The exception is if you run car tires then you are on your own. But Honda specs radial tires.

I have used Metzlers, Avons, Bridgestones and Dunlop E 3's on my wing and have gotten the best and longest service from the Dunlops. I really liked the feel of the Metzlers but the tire did not hold up--delamination.

I have read about the new Michelins commanders and if they are radial would consider giving them a try.
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captaindan
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Re: New tires

Postby captaindan » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:37 pm

harvey,
Thanks for the input.....I was really interested in the commanders also until I found out no radial.....Then I started having second thoughts and have completely ruled it out....Have you run the Metzeler 888? I am just about ready to pull the trigger on that one just to try something different. I've read some reviews that folks claim it is so much better than the 880's.....but it seems new enough that no one had a mileage report.

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Re: New tires

Postby harvey01 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:36 pm

The Metzler 888 is a new tire. But then the Dunlops on my Wing are E3's but not the new ones. So I am a few years behind. That's what happens when you get a really good deal and buy several sets then don't ride as much as you planned/hoped!

So, no I have not tried the Metzler. I also had been hoping to see some reports to see how they held up. Previous Metzlers have a rep for delamination. It didn't happen with all but just a few.

Have you even looked at the Shinko? They don't go the mileage of Dunlops but the few folks I know who have used them liked the ride.


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