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kenpost2
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Front suspension

Postby kenpost2 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:50 pm



Any opinions on traxion ak 20, thinking about upgrade



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newday777
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1999SE Totaled by cager at 105,000 miles

Re: Front suspension

Postby newday777 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:36 pm

That is a good upgrade. If you can afford it do it with the rear shock too. You'll find that your bike rides the way it should have from the factory.

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Re: Front suspension

Postby winder16 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:59 pm

I'm gonna rebuild front forks this winter does anyone have a parts list of a complete seals and such I will need to do the job I bought the traxxion spring and sleaves that come in the kit where can I get the rest online ? or do I have to go through a dealer ohh and I have a 2008 wing

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Re: Front suspension

Postby newday777 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:16 pm

Cyclemax.com or wingstuff.com will have a kit

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Re: Front suspension

Postby winder16 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:50 pm

thanks newday ill check it out

collinsa
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Re: Front suspension

Postby collinsa » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:03 am

rebuilt three sets of front forks for myself and two mates using kits from Honda Direct

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Rednaxs60
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Re: Front suspension

Postby Rednaxs60 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:18 pm

When I was considering buying my '08 GW, I scoured the internet and found that suspension was a major issue for GW riders. This was the first upgrade I did on mine (front and back) and it was worth every penny. The Traxion suspension is excellent, has the bike riding approximately 1 inch higher, gets rid of the anti-dive on the one fork, and makes it extremely difficult to drag hard parts in corners. Cheers.

Ernest
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Re: Front suspension

Postby newday777 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:39 pm

kenpost2 wrote:Any opinions on traxion ak 20, thinking about upgrade

When you post a question on a forum you should reply back. Have you made a decision or done anything?
If you want to talk to a professional suspension expert, call Adam at Rocket Moto Sport in Nashua NH. He will tell you according to your riding style his recommendation. I went with Racetech front and rear Traxxion suspension.

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Re: Front suspension

Postby kenpost2 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:57 am

THANKS FOR ALL OF YALL'S OPINIONS, WENT WITH FULL TRAXXION MONTY

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Re: Front suspension

Postby newday777 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:01 am

kenpost2 wrote:THANKS FOR ALL OF YALL'S OPINIONS, WENT WITH FULL TRAXXION MONTY


Cool.
Tell us of your experience with it.

That will help others decide that read this later in time that read this using the search tool looking for an answer to their decision on doing a suspension upgrade.

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Old German
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Re: Front suspension

Postby Old German » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:54 pm

Hello
I have had my bike in shop to get some upgrades done. They installed the Progressive Cartridge Kit, the progressive rear spring, All Balls tapered steering head bearings and All Balls wheel bearings. I got also a new set of Avon Cobras, balanced with RideOn.

After 150 km riding back home I only can say it feels like a new bike. No wobbling anymore. The steering is perfect, the suspension is awesome and I got between 2” and 3” more ground clearance. I should not have wait so long for it. I have a 2003 GL 1800 with 98.000 km on it.

Usually I rode with a preload of 16 (single). After the suspension has changed, I adjusted it back to 10 and it is still stiffer than before.
My first impression, I got a sport touring bike now.

Now I have 105.000 Km on it and I'm still happy.

Happy new year

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Re: Front suspension

Postby Rednaxs60 » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:59 am

Another aspect of the Traxion Suspension upgrade is the triple tree(s) are changed as well. The OEM stock triple trees are not as robust as the Traxion. Also a fan of RideOn.

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Ernest
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Big Bee
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Re: Front suspension

Postby Big Bee » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:13 pm

Doing the front end rebuild, take it a bit further and replace the steering head bearings with taper roller bearings, and add a fork brace. You are that far, git er all done. If you haven't had the steering head bearings replaced, you may soon. Do it now while things are torn apart. After looking how the forks operate, a brace just makes sense. I'm very happy with my front end rebuild I did last winter, fork overhaul, Traxxion progressive springs, All Balls Bearings, Superbrace, and new tires.

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Re: Front suspension

Postby Rednaxs60 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:49 am

Forgot to mention, part of the "full Monty" is the replacing of the triple tree brackets that includes new tapered roller bearings. The OEM bearing reminded me of the bicycle steering bearings - ball bearings encased in a flimsy steel cage. For such a high end machine, some of the cost benefit decisions made by Honda does make me wonder at times.

This picture demonstrates a bearing consisting of ball bearings in a steel cage. This bearing is actually better than the one removed from my '08 GW



This is a picture of a tapered bearing and race that was installed with the "full Monty". Significant difference.


Cheers

Ernest
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Big Bee
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Re: Front suspension

Postby Big Bee » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:48 pm

Pictures are worth a 1,000 words. The OEM bearings are a steel cage, with phenolic material separating the balls. With the forces acting on the steering bearings, phenolic wears quickly, hence a wobble. Honda replacement bearings are around $43.00, and All Balls are $40.00. I reckon Honda wants GW'ers to bring in their Wings to pay dealer prices for a bearing replacement. If lives were lost because these crummy OEM bearings, you bet there would be a recall.

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Re: Front suspension

Postby kenpost2 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:17 pm

Went all the way. Full mega monty




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