New 2015 1800 "To light to activate spring"


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mrtnfischer
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New 2015 1800 "To light to activate spring"

Postby mrtnfischer » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:39 pm



I bought this WIng 2 weeks ago and have suspension problem
1. My weight is 165 and no passenger
2. Wing ride is terrible and stiff
3. 4500 miles on the bike
4. I read all the forms and every one says springs are to soggy
5. Front shocks do not seem to compress more than 1"
6. Rear shock are hard no matter what the setting ( I bounce on the seat and no give)

I am told progressive springs on the front and disconnect the anti dive feature and replace the rear spring with a "soggy one"
I have been riding for 50 years, what gives???? and help

I am getting ready to sell this bike if I cant fix it..



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Re: New 2015 1800 "To light to activate spring"

Postby mrtnfischer » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:43 pm

Sorry, I ment most riders say that their springs are to soft, my problem is they are to stiff.

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Re: New 2015 1800 "To light to activate spring"

Postby themainviking » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:21 pm

I do not know if Honda beefed up the suspension from 2012 on, but if they did then that would be the problem. I have a 2009, weigh 20 pounds more than you, and had to switch to progressive springs to get decent handling (also disabled the anti dive). So far, I have been satisfied with the rear suspension, pumped up to the top. When I am not, I will add the rear progressive spring, the traxxion hose, and change the oil. I do not understand why your GL1800 would be so much stiffer than mine was, in a stock configuration. Perhaps if you ride it another 5K miles it will soften up. Maybe even too much.
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Re: New 2015 1800 "To light to activate spring"

Postby mrtnfischer » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:10 pm

OK, well I don't know why it is stiff, A friend knowledgeable about bikes, road it back from Americade for 200 Miles and said : Suspension is too stiff and there is something wrong with the forks.
he drive a BMWLT and a 2013 R1200RT. I also drive a 09 R1200RT.
They seem to ride just fine. When I BOUNCE on those seats, the bikes move down.
Thanks for the info. I really like the Idea of removing or disabling the Anti Dive.

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Re: New 2015 1800 "To light to activate spring"

Postby themainviking » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:53 am

You may be experiencing a phenomenon known as "stiction" if the bikes axle and front forks were not torqued properly when it was assembled. You do know that dealerships have part time students and the most untrained employees assembling their products when they are uncrated, right? Anyway, what you can do to check on this is to loosen the four axle clamp bolts on the lower front of each fork leg (two per side) and then try bouncing your front end (while they are loose) This should also release any torque caused stiction if there is any. Then torque those four bolts to exactly 16 ft lbs and not a bit more. Do the right side pinch bolts first, rebounce the bike, then the left side pinch bolts. (right and left are as you are standing in front of the bike looking at it)

Hopefully, this will sort out the problem for you. Small steps grasshopper, :lol:
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Re: New 2015 1800 "To light to activate spring"

Postby PastoT » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:08 pm

I installed new progressive springs in my 02 when replacing the seals and did not disable my ADV. At 175 lbs it was a stiff almost teeth jarring ride depending on the road and my ADV actually works. If the ADV is stuck (like so many) then it really stinks. I'd disable the ADV and try it. My springs have over 10k and are still a bit stiff to my liking. As for the rear spring being stiff; I'd advise more Krispy Kreme rides!
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Re: New 2015 1800 "To light to activate spring"

Postby donczar » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:13 pm

I guess people who rode only GL1800s may think the ride is okay. But like you, I also ride a BMW. The BMW ride is the best there is and when I get on my GL1800 I want to cry. WTH.
If only I could put the same BMW system on my Wing....
I wish there was a softer spring for the rear.
I been looking for a long time.....and I don't want to be over weight to enjoy my wing.
If I am wrong, so be it.
If anybody knows of a soft spring please let us light weights know. I love everything thing about my wing but the suspension.
PS I have over 100,000 miles on GL1800 goldwings.

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Re: New 2015 1800 "To light to activate spring"

Postby Greenwinger » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:55 pm

donczar wrote:I been looking for a long time.....and I don't want to be over weight to enjoy my wing.
If I am wrong, so be it.
If anybody knows of a soft spring please let us light weights know. I love everything thing about my wing but the suspension.
PS I have over 100,000 miles on GL1800 goldwings.



I thought being over weight was a condition of sale for a Goldwing

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Re: New 2015 1800 "To light to activate spring"

Postby waituntilthebeep » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:19 am

Greenwinger wrote:

I thought being over weight was a condition of sale for a Goldwing

My fat butt PREFERS the Wing.

I had a 1500 and the suspension was soggy as heck. The 1800 went to a more sport bike type stance and the ride got stiffer. I am close to 300# and it seems to be okay for me but I can see how a lighter rider might find it aggressive. I don't necessarily like the "old Caddy" kind of floaty ride so it works for me.

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Re: New 2015 1800 "To light to activate spring"

Postby Scooter363y » Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:36 pm

Does it ride any better two up? Try a ride with a passenger.

You may need to take it to a competent (good luck) mechanic and start with him resetting/retorqueing the front end. And check all suspension components for binding.

Good mechanics are getting harder to find. Many of the local dealerships want to get rid of the older more experienced and higher paid ones. And replace them with younger less experienced and paid ones. But still charge you full pop while they learn on your very expensive bike. I worked for four years in a shop that only did repairs. We got lots of work from the big dealerships customers that didn't get the proper set-up to begin with. Once word got out that we did good work we were really busy.

I once worked for a dealership that sold Hondas and Suzuki that if " he could cut the service Dept off he would do it". He went outta business after I left there. It was very difficult working there as a mechanic that cared about your work.
There during the late 70's early 80's lots of dealerships went out of business. Especially the sell em and forget em dealers. We only did service work and our business flourished.

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