How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull


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How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby B-2 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:23 pm



I am trying to find out how much a 1800 Goldwing can pull with out over heating. I started out building my own trike but TX put a stop to that :evil: I want to pull my 1939 Tear drop trailer it weights around 800 lbs with a trike. I'm riding a 86 1200 sei right now I would like to get a 1800 but everyone is telling me it will over heat pulling that much weight cross country. I have pulled the trailer with my 86 sei just on short trips to see how it does & it pulls it fine it doesn't seem to over heat. So was wondering if any one had pulled that much weight with the 1800. :?: I am thinking about building my own trike kit, and use a older ford rear end so I could change the gears to pull the weight. Or will a stock 1800 do the job just the way it is. Everyone keeps telling me to get rid of the tear drop & get a smaller pop up tent trailer. But I really want to pull my tear drop with some kind of trike so any info will help. I have always rode a Honda since the early 70's & would like to pull my tear drop with a bike until I get to old. :lol:



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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby robb » Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:55 pm

It's not about towing, it's about stopping. Friend pulls a camper trailer behind his GL1500, trailer is just under 700 pounds but it has a tongue brake system. Also has two axles with 13" tires that balance well, but with cooler around 125 pounds on tongue.

Honda said 410 pounds with GL1800 and some say they pull 650 pounds with trike. Then again it's more about stopping ability.

Cheap hitch that comes with a trike are rated at 30 pound tongue weight so a better unit is required.

Hitches for both GL models are around 30 pounds but not to exceed 50 pounds. At 10-15 % of trailer weight that's about 350 pounds max.

Forgot to add that Japan uses GL1800 tow trucks for up to 5500 pounds and 20 mph.
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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby B-2 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:51 pm

I seen that were they used it as a tow truck, I was just hoping someone else had pulled that much & could give me some tips. I plan on putting some kind of electric brakes on camper & beef up the tow hitch. Thanks Bill

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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby Steve F » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:25 am

robb wrote:It's not about towing, it's about stopping. Friend pulls a camper trailer behind his GL1500, trailer is just under 700 pounds but it has a tongue brake system. Also has two axles with 13" tires that balance well, but with cooler around 125 pounds on tongue.

Honda said 410 pounds with GL1800 and some say they pull 650 pounds with trike. Then again it's more about stopping ability.

Cheap hitch that comes with a trike are rated at 30 pound tongue weight so a better unit is required.

Hitches for both GL models are around 30 pounds but not to exceed 50 pounds. At 10-15 % of trailer weight that's about 350 pounds max.

Forgot to add that Japan uses GL1800 tow trucks for up to 5500 pounds and 20 mph.
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Honda didn't say that at all. Honda clearly states that pulling a trailer is not recommended (when HONDA says something, we take it more as a DARE than a warning :lol: )
Aside from that, pulling any trailer with a motorcycle is a problem with stopping, and 400 LBS. is my personal maximum, and 30 to 40 LBS. tongue weight is quite a lot for the fracture-prone sub frames on these bikes.
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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby B-2 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:31 am

I guess I didn't get across as to what I want to do. I plan on building my own trike kit using a ford rear end with disc brakes I'm not sure which one I will go with yet. And use some fiberglass fenders & build the rest of it myself,I have messed with hot rods all my life so I have all the tools. I plan on putting elec brakes on the trailer just like you would on any thing else. So I don't think stopping would be that bad if I get it all dialed in right. I would love to pull it with two wheels but I think a trike would be a lot safer. Just was wanting some input from someone that has pulled a bigger trailer like that.

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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby Steve F » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:21 pm

How about puling 2500Kg ? This was mentioned earlier:


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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby GLRT » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:17 pm

Most trike kits use a ford 9" rear end not sure on the ratio but it should match the existing gl ratio. Trikes are much better at pulling in general and 400lbs should not be an issue. I have seen much more but one must use some discretion. I build trikes but don't do the old style rear conversions so mine all have stock drivetrain and pulling at times is just limited to how much smoke you want emanating off the rear tire ;)

The 1800 will pull much more than the 1500 and the valkyrie 1500 will do better than the GL1500 and almost as well as the 1800.

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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby crock4 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:45 am

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B-2 wrote:I am trying to find out how much a 1800 Goldwing can pull with out over heating. I started out building my own trike but TX put a stop to that :evil: I want to pull my 1939 Tear drop trailer it weights around 800 lbs with a trike. I'm riding a 86 1200 sei right now I would like to get a 1800 but everyone is telling me it will over heat pulling that much weight cross country. I have pulled the trailer with my 86 sei just on short trips to see how it does & it pulls it fine it doesn't seem to over heat. So was wondering if any one had pulled that much weight with the 1800. :?: I am thinking about building my own trike kit, and use a older ford rear end so I could change the gears to pull the weight. Or will a stock 1800 do the job just the way it is. Everyone keeps telling me to get rid of the tear drop & get a smaller pop up tent trailer. But I really want to pull my tear drop with some kind of trike so any info will help. I have always rode a Honda since the early 70's & would like to pull my tear drop with a bike until I get to old. :lol:
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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby crock4 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:49 am

The posted picture is not a goldwing, but with hot rod building experience, well certainly doable. Good luck with your build, and please post some pictures.
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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby joeincalif » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:16 am

many good answers here. The 1800 wing had overheating problems when in PARADE MODE. Once the bike is moving it is fine. In 06 Honda put bigger radiators in the 1800 to help with that problem. Once you trike the bike and put a hitch on it the warranty, if it still has one will be voided.
Now a trike get a lot less MPG's then a 2 wheel wing, pulling a trailer will decrees it even more, so a lot of trike's have an extra fuel tank. '
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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby Snowmoer » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:32 pm

You should not have any problems with overheating. The only time my 1800 temp rose was keeping a steady 75 mph on a long steep grade coming out of Needles CA in 110 temps. The temp gauge just rose to 3/4 and did not overheat. I was pulling my roll a home and it was at about 600 lbs. The 1800 pulls this amount of weight without any problems. I had the tongue weight at about 35 lbs. You just have to remember it is back there!

Even though you will have a trike, I would look into trailer brakes with the size trailer you are talking about. I have them on my roll a home and would not want to pull the trailer without them.

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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby Pricejh61 » Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:23 pm

Several have pointed out that you limiting factor will be stopping. You can overcome that issue by installing brakes on the trailer and a proportional brake controller on the bike. I did that with my V2K. Worked well.
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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby B-2 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:13 pm

Thanks for all the info everyone it sounds like I will not have any trouble doing what I want to do. :D
I guess for my next ? I will put it up as a new post Thanks again for all of the input & info
this is the trailer I am going to pull I was told it was a 1939 teardrop when we got it. The year really doesn't matter to us we just really liked the trailer when we seen it. I hope to have it redone & get me a 1800 by this time next yr. so we can start taking trips when the wife has the time.

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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby PastoT » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:09 pm

I have an 02 GL1800 and pull my Tag-Along more than not. I've ridden from Idaho to Tucson and to Las Vegas in the summer desert heat and had no issues at all with nearly 500# including the trailer. Air Temp was 120 at the peak of the day and the temp gauge never passed the 1/2 way point until I got slowed to 15 in a national park area, still I only had to return to about 25 and it cooled off in a matter of 1-2 minutes. On the highway through the mountains here or in the southwest my trailer hasn't heated my bike up more than it would normally (parade speeds can be an issue regardless). The max I've pulled I would estimate as 600# with trailer into the Idaho Mountains. Like said before braking is the issue and without trailer brakes you need to leave slow and leave more room to stop (gearing down helps too). The issue I've found with a heavy trailer is turning a corner, it requires more work as the trailer pushes on the hitch and tries to push the bike more upright. Again I have an 1800 so its big and heavy anyway, and doesn't have the newer/larger radiators.
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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby B-2 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:30 pm

Thanks for the info PastoT I hope to get a Voyager Trike Kit to put on which ever bike I get. I am not sure which I'm going to get either a 99 or 2000 1500 or the 1800. I have been reading a lot on both of them I can get a 2000 gl1500 with a Voyager kit on it for around $10K still trying to make up my mind. I am putting up my 86 1200 sei with a matching trailer
for sale real soon, then I guess I'll make up my mind.

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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby PastoT » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:59 pm

BTW there is a forum thread somewhere I read of an Goldwing (1500 or 1800) that towed another Goldwing on a trailer, following a purchase I think. So it certainly can pull its own weight plus a little. Of course we razed him that he was pulling spare parts he didn't need!
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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby paulmeyers1 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:27 am

I agree with Robb - it's really not about towing - - - it's about how to stop that weight.

I have trailered many many times and I usually end up with 15% weight on the tongue of the trailer.

I ensure that my weight in the trailer is evenly placed and I never overload the trailer. My trailer

can hold 150 lbs of stuff.

Again - too much weight and it will just push the bike when you tried to emergency stop.

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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby jerbearyukon » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:04 am

Its been my experience that they can pull a bit of weight. That being said you don't want to "WAG THE DOG" either.

I have one of those 'America's best trailers - 5 footer model". Pulls like a dream but if I have a bag on the top and there is a HEAVY cross wind it can be a bit un-nerving.

So I would caution this.......take what you need, but limit what you take and keep the profile LOW and get the right balance between tongue weight and back of the wheels weight.......those can make for a bad pulling experience.

PS - get a swivel hitch......that is AMAZING....

My brother and I did the road to the sun and down the back side.....he couldn't keep up with me becuase his was binding......put mine on and I put his on......I couldn't keep up with him especially on corners that dip and turn real tight....(double wammy)

I have even seen trucks pulling trailers (real TALL trailers) and the wind is moving both around......always felt real nervous for them.

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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby CruiseControl » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:05 pm

Interesting thread. Good input from lots of great people. Could I get any other feedback on the same topic for my situation?

I'm considering towing this boat. The boat is 400# + trailer weight. Tongue is pretty light, I'll check the weight. No electric brakes. I'm likely to tow no more than 25 miles a trip to get to various boat ramps. I recognized a problem I hadn't considered reading another thread... mirrors won't allow me to see around the boat.

Any other thoughts beyond what is discussed here already?


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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby PastoT » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:21 pm

Towing a boat is a new one on me. I've seen campers with canoes and kayaks but they are a lot smaller. Having a 23 foot cabin sailboat I know pulling the boat and trailer out of the water with a 4 wheel vehicle can be a slippery PITA, I can't imagine having the traction with a motorcycle even a heavy girl (1800). My brother lost a Nissan pickup on an algae covered ramp launching a fishing boat smaller than yours, and insurance didn't cover any of it. If the back tire spins it's going to go out one side or the other and then be drug back down the ramp on its side. I wouldn't dream of it. Towing is one thing, windage would be a stability issue, but the process of launch and recovery of the boat and trailer with a motorcycle isn't smart.
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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby vv0350 » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:03 am

Say, no one has mentioned the stress put upon the relatively little Goldwing U joint that pushes everything down the road.....They really are not designed to haul terribly heavy loads out behind..We have a 1997 GL1500, CSC trike and we pull a 177 lb Piggy Backer trailer with about 100 lbs of stuff on board and driver and passenger...and I think that is about max for the drive system of a 1500 Goldwing..
Any other opinion..?

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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby CruiseControl » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:19 am

PastoT wrote:... I know pulling the boat and trailer out of the water with a 4 wheel vehicle can be a slippery PITA, I can't imagine having the traction with a motorcycle even a heavy girl (1800). ... If the back tire spins it's going to go out one side or the other and then be drug back down the ramp on its side. ...

I hadn't thought of the slippery ramp issue... with a 4-wheel there's usually enough ass to keep the wheels on the dry/clean ramp. I suppose I'll have to consider some kind of launch system that keeps the Wing high and dry.

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Re: How much weight can a 1800 Goldwing pull

Postby robb » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:35 am

At one of the places where I kayak, Nanatala, there is a man who carries a 15' canoe on top of his Goldwing. Said it was tricky but once he got the hang of it the balance was OK.
Spent last week at Myrtle Beach, SC where I had a talk with a GL 1500 owner who was pulling a Honda Seadoo Spark. Said it pulled great and at 500 pounds with trailer was easily moved. Problem was loading and unloading in water, no traction. Replaced rear tire with a car tire and said it solved that problem, even stopping was acceptable.




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