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Trailer question.

Postby m2102 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:56 pm



I've had my trailer for about 5 years and always wanted it to be hinged. Well today I did just that.
Works pretty good too. Now my next thought is how to keep it held up when putting stuff in it. I thought about using chain at both ends but then thought maybe using gas struts. I watched some YouTube video's but what I would like to know is how do you determine the length you need and the placement. Has anyone put these on a trailer lid or anything comparable that could maybe point the way. TIA



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Re: Trailer question.

Postby NVSB4 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:46 pm

You could always just use a stick. :D

On the struts, it doesn't matter what length you get, just put the bottom fairly close to the hinges.
The closer to the hinges, the higher the lid at full extension.
The other end (attached to the top) will just be mounted at the length of the closed strut.
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Re: Trailer question.

Postby m2102 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:54 pm

Thanks NVSB4 sounds fairly simple enough. Now just have to get a couple and see what I can do.

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Re: Trailer question.

Postby MikeB » Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:50 pm

You could always use a rod similar to what the auto manufacturers use for the hood of a car. Open your hood and take a look. It stows real nice too. The gas struts are a lot more expensive than a plain rod and they need to be the proper pressure to make sure the lid stays op. They come in many different strengths. It could be pricey trial and error while you figure out what which strut or set of struts you will need
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Re: Trailer question.

Postby cihilb » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:53 am

Also, a lot depends on what the trailer is made off. Gas struts require a good amount of pressure to close when fully extended putting a lot of force on the mounting points.

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Re: Trailer question.

Postby m2102 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:11 pm

Looks like I hot some thinking yo do. Thanks for the ideas.

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Re: Trailer question.

Postby wingpilot08 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:24 pm

What kind of trailer?? I just added gas struts to my 1988 Bunkhouse Camper trailer. I purchased the gas struts for McMaster Carr for about $16 each ( two struts) originally ordered 120lb pressure struts and they were a bit much..so reordered 60lb struts and they were perfect!

http://www.mcmaster.com/#gas-struts/=14e8l2d

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Re: Trailer question.

Postby m2102 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:08 pm

Thanks. Wingpilot08 thats the way i been leaning.
. This is my trailer. Hoping to get a bigger one next year and keep this one for a spare.

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Re: Trailer question.

Postby cihilb » Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:48 pm

This appears to be some kind of plastic shell. Maybe ABS. I would be very careful using gas struts.
do a search for a lid support. These are used on cedar chests and toy boxes. The lock into place when opened.
http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/specialty-hinges/chest-hinges-box-hinges-lid-supports/toy-box-lid-supports/10-1-2-lid-support

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Re: Trailer question.

Postby m2102 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:57 pm

No I'm pretty sure it's fiberglass. You can see the fibers on the inside of the trailer and it ain't very light either. If I had to guess I'd say it's about 20-25# or so, maybe little more. I've used the ones you mentioned on toy boxes in my wood working days and don't this nk they would be strong g enough. They have some spring loaded but don't know if they would open far enough.

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Re: Trailer question.

Postby wingpilot08 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:02 pm

m2102 wrote:Thanks. Wingpilot08 thats the way i been leaning.
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. This is my trailer. Hoping to get a bigger one next year and keep this one for a spare.


You might be able to get struts directly from a auto part store. The size of that trailer would not require a strong gas strut. I would think even a 15lb strut would be too much and would fling open the trailer when unlocked!!
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Re: Trailer question.

Postby m2102 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:09 pm

I've got time to think about how i want to go about doing it. I'll be sure and post what I come up with.

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Re: Trailer question.

Postby Scooter363y » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:18 am

Try some of the woodworking supply houses. I think that I have seen a folding latch/strut that would work great

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Re: Trailer question.

Postby PastoT » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:15 pm

The HF Tag-Along has gas struts fore and aft and is hinged is along the left (traffic) side. Its ABS and doesn't seem to have an issue I doubt they are more than 15lb but they aren't marked in anyway. They do come in handy, never considered what a pain loading would be without them. :oops: My guess would be to figure out how far open you want the lid to be when open (too high and wind may be an issue), then with the strut extended position them to support the lid. The real issue will determining the compressed strut length that works for your trailer. Ensure the lid and base connection points are not shorter distance apart than the fully compressed strut length. If the strut is too long it will breaks the mount points out of the trailer! Probably best to have an inch left short of full compression, so there is no way closing the lid will completely compress the strut to its stop point and break out the mounts. Also remember a strut doesn't compress to 50% its extended length, I was a dummy about that when replacing and rear window strut that just didn't work for me first time around.


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