Sena SM10 Transmitter & SMH10 Bluetooth


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Sena SM10 Transmitter & SMH10 Bluetooth

Postby tomas65 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:15 pm



Does the Sena SM10 allow complete use of the Goldwings infotainment system minus the cb? Want to be able to listen to radio, cd player & communication between rider & passenger. Ive read that it does support the intercom system while videos show it does not support the intercom. Need clarification please



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Re: Sena SM10 Transmitter & SMH10 Bluetooth

Postby thrasherg » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:08 am

The thing you need to be aware of is that it only pairs with 1 headset, so for the intercom your passenger either needs to be plugged into the goldwing intercom by a cable, or you need a second Freewire to pair with the passenger helmet, then you both have access to all the goldwing systems and intercom. Hope that makes sense. If you have only one Freewire then whoever is paired with it will have access to all the goldwing features except will NOT be able to talk with a passenger unless that passenger uses a cable to plug into the passenger intercom plug or you add a second Freewire which you plug into the passenger intercom plug and then pair with the passenger helmet!! It gets very expensive very quickly, $500 for two Freewire units and another $500 for two Bluetooth headsets, but for $1000 you and your passenger will be wireless and have all the capabilities that would have cost you $200 for two Honda wired headsets!! :D The SM10 claims to link to 2 headsets, so seems a better bet, but not sure what capabilities you give up compared to the Freewire.

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Re: Sena SM10 Transmitter & SMH10 Bluetooth

Postby tomas65 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:25 am

The sm10 transmitter is a dual version & I already have 2 smh10 helmet headsets. So I have to have 2 of the transmitters if I want to communicate back and forth wireless with passenger?

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Re: Sena SM10 Transmitter & SMH10 Bluetooth

Postby thrasherg » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:19 am

My Bad, I thought the SM10 was the same thing as a Freewire (updated my post to change reference to Freewire), my comments are correct for Freewire, but it looks like SM10 is a better option. I wonder if they will upgrade the Freewire to connect to 2 headsets? The SM10 seems like a better bet than the Freewire, but it's not clear to me what features you lose on a goldwing if you use the SM10 instead of the Freewire. :oops:

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Re: Sena SM10 Transmitter & SMH10 Bluetooth

Postby raven41951 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:22 pm

I am/was confused. I have SM20S. They are basically the same as the 10s, but they are already paired with each other and I think they allow for more paired users.

In order to communicate with the Goldwing audio system, you need the Sena Freewire for EACH SM10, at $250 a pop. Like wise, I need two Freewires for my SM20s. This allows for complete communications with the rider and up to 8 other devices (SM20, I am not sure about that number for the SM10) which includes the bikes audio, cellphone, back seat rider, and other riders (in a group). The second Freewaire allows the back seater to listen to the bikes audio (including CB) as well.

If you choose only one Freewire, then you can listen to the bikes audio output and communicate with your passenger, but your passenger cannot listen to the bikes audio. They can however pair with a Bluetooth device and have their own audio (mp3, phone).

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Re: Sena SM10 Transmitter & SMH10 Bluetooth

Postby thrasherg » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:03 pm

raven41951 wrote:I am/was confused. I have SM20S. They are basically the same as the 10s, but they are already paired with each other and I think they allow for more paired users.

In order to communicate with the Goldwing audio system, you need the Sena Freewire for EACH SM10, at $250 a pop. Like wise, I need two Freewires for my SM20s. This allows for complete communications with the rider and up to 8 other devices (SM20, I am not sure about that number for the SM10) which includes the bikes audio, cellphone, back seat rider, and other riders (in a group). The second Freewaire allows the back seater to listen to the bikes audio (including CB) as well.

If you choose only one Freewire, then you can listen to the bikes audio output and communicate with your passenger (Only if you have an SM20, SM10 can either be paired with the Freewire or in intercom mode, but not both at the same time!), but your passenger cannot listen to the bikes audio. They can however pair with a Bluetooth device and have their own audio (mp3, phone). Only if they have a sena 20S headset, the sena10's dont allow you to listen to music from one bluetooth device and also be in an intercom session at the same time!!


I just upgraded all my sena 10 units (3 of them) to Sena20's for this very reason!! The Sena20s work very well and as stated above if both roider and passenger have 20S then the rider with a Freewire can listen to the onboard music/CB and talk to the passenger (at the same time) but the passenger can unly use the intercom, not able to hear the onboard music, unless you buy a second freewire. Now the SM10 transmitter states it pairs with 2 headsets and has the audio input so I cant see why that cannot be connected to the goldwing intercom system (as the Freewire does) and then with that one unit, both rider and passenger could listen to the music and talk together at the same time. The SM10 seems like a good choice, I am struggling to understand what you give up if you go from a Freewire to an SM10 on a goldwing!!

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Re: Sena SM10 Transmitter & SMH10 Bluetooth

Postby thrasherg » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:06 pm

thrasherg wrote:
raven41951 wrote:I am/was confused. I have SM20S. They are basically the same as the 10s, but they are already paired with each other and I think they allow for more paired users.

In order to communicate with the Goldwing audio system, you need the Sena Freewire for EACH SM10, at $250 a pop. Like wise, I need two Freewires for my SM20s. This allows for complete communications with the rider and up to 8 other devices (SM20, I am not sure about that number for the SM10) which includes the bikes audio, cellphone, back seat rider, and other riders (in a group). The second Freewaire allows the back seater to listen to the bikes audio (including CB) as well.

If you choose only one Freewire, then you can listen to the bikes audio output and communicate with your passenger (Only if you have a Sena20 headset, Sena10 headsets can either be paired with the Freewire or in intercom mode with another Headset, but not both at the same time!), but your passenger cannot listen to the bikes audio. They can however pair with a Bluetooth device and have their own audio (mp3, phone). Only if they have a Sena20 headset, the Sena10 headsets dont allow you to listen to music from one bluetooth device and also be in an intercom session at the same time!!


I just upgraded all my Sena10 units (3 of them) to Sena20's for this very reason!! The Sena20 headsets work very well and as stated above if both rider and passenger have 20S then the rider with a Freewire can listen to the onboard music/CB and talk to the passenger (at the same time) but the passenger can only use the intercom, passenger cannot hear the onboard music, unless you buy a second freewire to pair with the passenger headset.

Now the SM10 transmitter states it pairs with 2 headsets and has the audio inputs of a Freewire, so I cant see why you cannot be connected to the goldwing intercom system (as the Freewire does) and then with that one unit, both rider and passenger could listen to the music and talk together at the same time. The SM10 seems like a good choice, I am struggling to understand what you give up if you go from a Freewire to an SM10 on a goldwing!!

Gary

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Re: Sena SM10 Transmitter & SMH10 Bluetooth

Postby raven41951 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:59 pm

The freewire provides an interface with the headset to the Honda audio system along with peripheral devices such as GPS, mp3, etc., all in a one-stop-shop.

I do not have the freewire yet, but I do have a whole bunch of gizmos that can do everything the freewire does, just not at the same time. It will be nice to consolidate three or so pieces to one. I am still learning and experimenting with the SM20 and when I am done I should have the funds put aside for the freewire. I have several items ahead of the freewire (SoCal driving/fog lights, aero flip-out highway pegs and a few other items including a toy hauler/camper) but it will arrive some time this year,




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