Passenger Buffeting


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Passenger Buffeting

Postby gildco » Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:40 am



Hello. I recently upgraded from a Kawasaki Vulcan 900 to a 2008 GW1800 air bag model. My wife tells me that she receives more wind buffeting on our Wing than she did on the Kawa. Have any of you 1800 owners discovered a windshield position that seems to reduce buffeting? I currently have the windshield at the lowest position.

I now know why my friends told me to try a Gold Wing before buying my next bike. The Wing is a joy to ride and is surprisingly agile for such a big bike. Perhaps I am unusually slow-witted, but getting the Wing on its center stand is always a hassle. Raising the suspension to its maximum height does seem to help. Too bad the bike doesn't come with a gorilla to center-stand it.



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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:06 am

I had the same complaint from my wife, so I put this Slipstreamer Wraparound on my bike. She said the difference was like night and day - she gets virtually no buffeting at all anymore.

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby gildco » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:16 am

Thanks for your response. I shall look into the windshield you recommend.

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby givey51 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:42 am

You might want to try baker air wings. They attache under the mirrors and to the sides of the fairing. For most people this cures the buffeting. There are alos sever brands of windshields made for the GL1800, Cee Baily, F4 custom, slipstreamer, Tulsa etc. They all come in various sizes

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby gildco » Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:37 pm

Thanks for the input. I appreciate it.

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby ssncob » Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:36 am

To get the bike on the center stand, while it seems counterintuitive, don't try to lift the bike up. Keep your right arm straight while holding onto the lift bar, left hand on the handlebar. Step on the center stand footpeg and instead of trying to lift the bike up, act like you are trying to push the center stand down into the ground. Keep your back and arm as straight as possible. Seems strange, but a lot less effort to "push" the stand down then to "lift" the bike up. Also wear hard soled shoes, tennis shoes just are painful. Let me know if this helps. s/Jerry

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby gildco » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:11 am

Thanks for the useful advice. I used your suggested technique and had success with it. You are right about "pushing the stand down" being easier than trying to lift the bike.

Gil

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby FlyBoy2121 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:17 am

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby gildco » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:27 am

Thanks for the input. Before buying something new, however, I am going to try the various windshield heighths to see which setting results in the least buffeting. As you know, too, there are lots of other goodies out there for the Wing, and for me, some of them have a higher priority on my "must have" list. :>)

Gil

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby Ed Z » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:27 pm

The windshield is one of the sources of her wind problems, but there are other things too... My bike came with the Wind Wings already on the bike (I bought a used bike)... These are not something that I would have ever purchased on my own, but now that I have experience with then, they would be one of my first accessory purchases..

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby gildco » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:37 pm

Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby canon » Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:53 pm

Your pass. will appreciate much less buffeting once you install a larger F4 windshield & Baker mirror & fairing wind wings. My pass. wouldn't ride w/o them. That small OEM windshield doesn't do much for pass.

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby gildco » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:13 pm

Thanks for the response, Canon. What approximate costs would I be looking at to buy this F4 windshield, Baker mirrors, and fairing wind wings?

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby canon » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:48 pm

The F4 is I believe $300. & the mirror & side Baker wind wings about $200.

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby Lefty » Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:02 pm

gildco wrote:Hello. I recently upgraded from a Kawasaki Vulcan 900 to a 2008 GW1800 air bag model. My wife tells me that she receives more wind buffeting on our Wing than she did on the Kawa. Have any of you 1800 owners discovered a windshield position that seems to reduce buffeting? I currently have the windshield at the lowest position.

I now know why my friends told me to try a Gold Wing before buying my next bike. The Wing is a joy to ride and is surprisingly agile for such a big bike. Perhaps I am unusually slow-witted, but getting the Wing on its center stand is always a hassle. Raising the suspension to its maximum height does seem to help. Too bad the bike doesn't come with a gorilla to center-stand it.



I have a Tulsa Tall windshield I installed, with Baker Built hand wings under the mirrors. Made the difference between night and day for my wife. Check out American Enterprises--they make the Tulsa Talls. Some folks beleive they are aerodynamically superior to other brands. I drove about 40-50 mph through a light rain in mine and never got wet.

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby gildco » Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:04 pm

Thanks for the tip. Appreciate it.

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby TexasCityDave » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:36 pm

Gildco,

Same as you, I just upgraded from a Vulcan 900 to a GL1800 airbag model and my wife said the same thing yours did. She loves the ride and feels way more comfortable and secure on the GW, but the buffeting is too much and will have to be addressed. What did you end up doing and did it work?

P.S. I went from the 900 Ninja (younger days) to the Concourse to the Vulcan and briefly considered the Voyager for this final upgrade. Almost bought the Victory Cross Country tour (test rode it), but I'm so glad we went with the Goldwing! It rides more like my Concourse did - the power/agility are surprising. Hard not to grin!

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby JerriEric » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:04 pm

I have several 100,000 miles on my wings. Wife has ridedn 99% of them with me. Unless you want to look through a huge windshield, which I do not, or put on those ugly air deflectors, only my opinion, there is no real solution.

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby themainviking » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:55 pm

From what I understood, the buffeting is because the passenger receives wind from over the windscreen and also from the rear when the wind curls back. When the rear wind meets the front wind, they cause turbulence and the passenger gets pushed around. They sell a rear airfoil type apparatus that mounts on the trunk which is supposed to stop the rear wind, thereby allowing the wind from over the windscreen to just joyfully go on it's way without knocking the passenger around. Not having ever added this rear baffle, I have no idea if it is true or not. Anyone willing to experiment and report back... :lol:

Edit: I found some writeups at WingStuff from people who had this on their bikes. They range from 1) does okay at quieting the wind turbulence to 2) wore out the back of the seat where it mounted and is way too flexible to be a really viable accessory. I guess I am not willing to try it out till they make a better version.
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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby JerriEric » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:58 pm

I've seen posts that say don't waste your money on the windscreen that attaches to the trunk.

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby Rigger » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:44 am

I have windscreen lowest when riding solo. 2 up I raise the screen to the horizontal slots. This position works well to reduce buffeting. I added baker wings recently. They help as well. I'm not into $300 for a new windshield without trying one first.

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Re: Passenger Buffeting

Postby TexasCityDave » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:23 pm

Thanks JerriEric, themainviking, & Rigger. I also saw those posts saying that the rear deflector worked well, but was too flexible and wore out the back seat where it mounted, so I'm not going to use that. The tall windscreen would be a last resort. So I think I'm going to put on some of those ugly wings and adjust the windscreen to the best position. Thanks again!




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