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goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by redd1 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:14 pm



goldwing 1800 will not turn over to start battery 13.5 v just hear a relay click nothing else all lights work fine Thanks



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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by keithg64 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:18 pm

Have you put a charger on just in case?
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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by redd1 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:30 pm

the battery has been charged and it sets at 13.5 volts......

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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by C-dub » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:41 pm

With an auto, if your battery is good and all you hear is clicking, doesn't that usually mean the starter is bad? I've never really experienced this with any motorcycle let alone my two month old Wing, so I'm not completely sure now, but that's my best guess.
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Re: Glwing will not start

Post by AZgl1800 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:24 pm

I just have to ask,

is the Kill switch in the middle position??

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Re: Glwing will not start

Post by Ghostman » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:38 pm

Is the 13.5 volts measured on the battery when you hit the starter or just after charging the battery?

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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by redd1 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:36 am

I just came home and put it the shop and the next day I went to start it and the relay click I think I should
try and fine the relay and and see if there is power coming out to the starter or try and find out if the power is at the starter
and I don not know where the starter is on the left side or the right side would it be at the front or the back of the bike thanks for any Help......

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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by keithg64 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:35 am

I wouldn't think the starter would be bad because of the age of the bike bu g I guess it could happen.
Also the starter could be stuck. Put the bike in gear and rock it back and forth. This may help. I'm just looking at the easy stuff first.
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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by joeincalif » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:00 am

The reverse button is not engaged is it?
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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by redd1 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:42 am

the reverse button is not engaged.... I will try and rock the bike back and forth and see what happens Thanks

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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by redd1 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:35 pm

I rock the bike back and forth for over a minute and no luck when hit the starter switch the volts stay the same 13.5 no darn on the battery Thanks.....

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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by keithg64 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:17 pm

Ok. Are the lights going out when you hit the starter button. If they do and they should the clicking is the headlight relay de-energizing.

Do you here the fuel pump prime itself when the key is turned on ?

Have you tried starting it with the clutch pulled in? If this works could be neutral switch.

Are you checking volts with a volt meter at the battery?

Is the F1 light come on when the key is turned on? I believe it should.

Could also be a bad kill switch on the handlebar. Rotate it about a dozen times and see if that works.

I did not come up with these questions on my own I got then from another 1800 Web sight but I hope it will get you closer.
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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by C-dub » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:15 pm

Well, I know it is a beast, but one other way to start it is to push it, hop on, and pop the clutch while in gear. If it starts then the starter is the culprit. If not, I apologize for suggesting this method since you had to push this thing fast enough to attempt such a feat.
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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by LloydB » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:23 pm

Start with the simple stuff, make sure that the cables, and battery posts are clean and tight, check ground cables. Good luck with it.
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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by redd1 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:13 pm

I was looking through the manual on my laptop and found a rack of relays under the seat
I wanted to check them out, there is a and b relay that I wanted to check out BUT I can;t
find the way to get them out of there holder to see which one is not working ANY help with
this would be great......Thanks again

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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by keithg64 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:19 pm

Remove the 2 screws, 1 on each side then remove the cover.
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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by RiderLft » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:24 am

Mine did the same thing. Remove the left saddle bag and check the nuts on top of the two starter relays, One of mine the nut had vibrated completely off, sometimes it would start sometimes not. It 's like you said battery tested good, lights would come on but would not start just click. The relays are behind the battery and the only way to get to the is removing the bag. easy way to check is shake the wires going to them and if that lets it start that is you problem

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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by redd1 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:29 pm

RE Mine did the same thing. Remove the left saddle bag and check the nuts on top of the two starter relays, One of mine the nut had vibrated completely off, sometimes it would start sometimes not. It 's like you said battery tested good, lights would come on but would not start just click. The relays are behind the battery and the only way to get to the is removing the bag. easy way to check is shake the wires going to them and if that lets it start that is you problem

We live about 100 KMS from any dealer so I have to do this myself I have only to take off the two top bolts to remove the left saddle bag and see what is there
I put my hand behind the battery and try to start the bike and felt one relay clicking when I hit the starter ,so you say that there is 2 relay there I will get on this in the morning What a great idea and thanks so much for your help I new someone out there would be able to help Thanks again will let you know RiderLft John

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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by PastoT » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:29 pm

With everything in normal ready to start mode you should hear two equally loud clicks under the upper front edge of the left saddle bag. There are 2 starter relays that carry the current to the starter. Starter Relays A and B are both identical and in series starter voltage and current passes through A and then through B (the one just out of reach aft of Relay A). These to relays are much larger than under the seat, I'd call them starter solenoids normally. If they aren't clicking loudly or only one clicks loudly, then the muted one is a problem. My starter button stuck a couple times and the coil in one of Starter Relay B overheated and melted enough to jam the contact plunger and it did the same thing. I bought replacements for both A & B on Amazon and had them in 2 days for under $20, replaced them and all was good. The starter on an 1800 is straight down under the fuel tank and you have to pull shelter and tank to get at it even to test it, but it in neutral and on the center stand you can jump power to it from the rear most large conductor off Starter Relay B. My Relay B was making a faint click as compared to Relay A and it turned out B was not moving the contact plunger at all (just a small disk in the bottom of the relay was clicking). I can probably link to my trouble shooting path on my other forum if needed. Also check your fuses there are a couple involved in the starter relay related circuits. Don't panic and refer to: http://gl1800riders.com/forums/5-gl1800 ... pin-2.html
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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by PastoT » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:40 pm

BTW I also panicked that my 2002 starter was bad... in the end it was just fine after 120k miles. While waiting for the Starter Relays to arrive I jump tested the starter by touching the rear starter Relay B heavy gauge wire to the battery's positive post and it cranked immediately (a sigh of relief followed).
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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by redd1 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:34 pm

Well I am stump trying to find the top bolts to take off, I have the two bottoms off and they are the ones that are on the back
plate of the saddle bag I see two move near the top of this back plate but can,t take them off through the saddle bag, I would
have to some how go behind the fender to get to them I guess. the bike is a 07 and has a kit on the back end if that helps I am getting
closer I feel it Thanks again for any HELP :P John

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Re: +goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by RiderLft » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:50 pm

Remove the seat if not already done. the bolts that hold it on are in the grab handles. one of the saddle bag bolts is on top of the bag on the outside of the bag and the other is inside the bag towards the upper rear the two bottom bolts are inside the bag at the bottom towards the front and rear may need to pull out bottom liners of bags to find them

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Re: goldwing 1800 will not turn over

Post by redd1 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:22 pm

I have not had a chance to get the left saddle bag off because I have been in the Hospital for a few days, on the left saddle bag
I took of 3 bolts off and I can not fine the fourth one yet...I went to a dealer here and he show me a 2002 and was not the same as
my 2007 I will look at it on Wed. and try to fine #4 bolt......Thanks again John



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