2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.


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2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby nn037574 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:46 pm



Hi all.

New to this group and am considering buying a 2004 GL 1800 with approx 70K. What are the things I should check/be on the lookout for? Currently a HD rider (don't tell them I'm switching, they will whine!) and I am very aware of the HD issues/problems to look out for. Any help/comments are greatly appreciated.



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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby themainviking » Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:35 am

There aren't really any issues to watch for other than perhaps transmission. You really need to ride test the bike, and if possible, a friends GL1800 to compare, and that will tell you how the transmission is shifting. Pretty much all the other issues can be taken care of in the process of riding. If it feels too soft in the front, then put traxxion or progressive springs and 10W fork oil. If the anti dive is problematic, get the $17 fix, or put a drilled nickel in it. One thing that does go wrong with these is the preload adjuster hose on the rear shock. It does not affect rideability, but does malfunction, and can be fixed if you are handy - with a braided steel line. I switched over to a Goldwing this past spring after 47 years on Harleys, and have not been tempted to go back. I bought a new one, and have still rebuilt the front forks and will tackle the back the first time I pull the rear wheel off. I even test rode a couple of brand new Harleys over the summer at Harley Demo rides, and still did not get tempted to go back to that brand. Riding a Goldwing is a lot different than riding a Harley. The seating position and balance points are not even similar. It could take a little while to get really proficient on the Wing, but it is well worth it. As long as I am moving, I can put the wing through just about the same maneuvers that I used to put the Harleys through. The thing with the wing is my shorter leg length at 30 inches. It means, when standing still, or backing up, I am not as solidly based on the wing as I was on the HD bikes I have owned. It takes more care to not lose the battle with upright, because if a wing decides to go, only superman is gonna stop it. Good luck with your purchase adventure.
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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby mbuesing » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:38 am

Check to see if it was involved in the frame recall. If it was, check the rewelds. Most are very good but some-
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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby nn037574 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:15 pm

Thanks for the replies & info.

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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby nn037574 » Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:27 pm

Thanks for the info. The seat height is a concern for me as well as I am also "vertically challenged". That is the first thing that will make or break the purchase. I went from an Ultra to a Fatboy and miss the "amenities" like cruise control as well as the fairing. From all I have read the buffeting is minimal on the Goldwing, supposedly less than an Ultra. Is this correct? I've never been on a Goldwing. I did ride a mid 2000's Silverwing once which was an interesting thing.








themainviking wrote:There aren't really any issues to watch for other than perhaps transmission. You really need to ride test the bike, and if possible, a friends GL1800 to compare, and that will tell you how the transmission is shifting. Pretty much all the other issues can be taken care of in the process of riding. If it feels too soft in the front, then put traxxion or progressive springs and 10W fork oil. If the anti dive is problematic, get the $17 fix, or put a drilled nickel in it. One thing that does go wrong with these is the preload adjuster hose on the rear shock. It does not affect rideability, but does malfunction, and can be fixed if you are handy - with a braided steel line. I switched over to a Goldwing this past spring after 47 years on Harleys, and have not been tempted to go back. I bought a new one, and have still rebuilt the front forks and will tackle the back the first time I pull the rear wheel off. I even test rode a couple of brand new Harleys over the summer at Harley Demo rides, and still did not get tempted to go back to that brand. Riding a Goldwing is a lot different than riding a Harley. The seating position and balance points are not even similar. It could take a little while to get really proficient on the Wing, but it is well worth it. As long as I am moving, I can put the wing through just about the same maneuvers that I used to put the Harleys through. The thing with the wing is my shorter leg length at 30 inches. It means, when standing still, or backing up, I am not as solidly based on the wing as I was on the HD bikes I have owned. It takes more care to not lose the battle with upright, because if a wing decides to go, only superman is gonna stop it. Good luck with your purchase adventure.

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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby themainviking » Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:34 pm

nn037574 wrote:Thanks for the info. The seat height is a concern for me as well as I am also "vertically challenged". That is the first thing that will make or break the purchase. I went from an Ultra to a Fatboy and miss the "amenities" like cruise control as well as the fairing. From all I have read the buffeting is minimal on the Goldwing, supposedly less than an Ultra. Is this correct? I've never been on a Goldwing. I did ride a mid 2000's Silverwing once which was an interesting thing.


The buffeting is less in fact, but the biggy will be the smoothness of the ride and the lack of engine noise. When I first got my wing, I missed the sound of the Harley (I still have one Harley left in the stable, but have not ridden it since I got the wing) but I soon got more used to the tunes. Now I would miss tunes if I went back to a Harley. I would also get all the pain and suffering that I left behind. I have tendonitis in my back, and an hour on the Harley leaves me unable to use the clutch or hold a throttle open manually. Those who have Ultras and say they smooth right out as soon as you leave an idle are fooling themselves. Harleys never smooth out. :lol:
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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby kcburgess » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:46 pm

nn037574 wrote:Thanks for the info. The seat height is a concern for me as well as I am also "vertically challenged". That is the first thing that will make or break the purchase. I went from an Ultra to a Fatboy and miss the "amenities" like cruise control as well as the fairing. From all I have read the buffeting is minimal on the Goldwing, supposedly less than an Ultra. Is this correct? I've never been on a Goldwing. I did ride a mid 2000's Silverwing once which was an interesting thing.



You can purchase i kit to lower the ride height and its not expensive.
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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby nn037574 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:20 pm

Tell me more regarding the "Kit" to lower it.

kcburgess wrote:You can purchase i kit to lower the ride height and its not expensive.

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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby Timma04 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:16 pm

You are going to make the best purchase EVER....We bought a 2004 Flared Red beauty after having a HD for 6 years and 60K nice but shakey miles. The HD dealership talked me into a new motor and it DID NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. They admitted there was a problem but could not locate it. This year while returning from Estes Park CO we traded for the Wing. After riding the Wing for a couple of thou, I can say that it is a supreme motorcycle compared to the Harley. I don't miss the noise, vibration, or wussy stock horn they have either. May you enjoy every mile on your new GL.

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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby themainviking » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:31 am

I doubt there was really anything "wrong" with the Harley - it is the nature of the beast to vibrate. It is part of why we love them. Riding a Harley gives one a "Wild Colonial Boy" feeling - sorta medieval or cowboy. The last of the rough, tough and hard to bluff folk. I rode them for 47 years, and enjoyed every mile, but age and tendonitis brought an end to it. I bought the Goldwing, and rode 14,000 plus miles this year alone (23,000 Kms), with no tendonitis flareups. The joy of being back in the wind (so to speak, behind that huge windshield) is something I was missing for the last five or more years. I miss the absolute mania of riding a softail custom, but if all I can ride in a day is a hundred miles, there needed to be something better. The Goldwing was all that and a bag of chips. Riding, for me, is like meditation. All the cares of the world go away and I become one with the machine (kinda difficult with a wing, easier with a softail, but you get the picture). I accepted that I would rather ride than not, so the Goldwing it is, and will continue to be into the future. I just love this bike. Anybody wanna buy a Softail Custom????? :lol:

I hope you enjoy as many miles on your Goldwing as I have and will on mine.
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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby dragon2000 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:11 am

nn037574 wrote:Tell me more regarding the "Kit" to lower it.

kcburgess wrote:You can purchase i kit to lower the ride height and its not expensive.


Here is one example of a Kit that is available.

http://www.lowerwingproducts.com/
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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby nn037574 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:37 pm

Thanks guys for all of your replies and info. I did buy it. Seems to run fine & everything checks out. I am on my tip toes so I will either have to lower it or mod the seat. Kinda leaning toward modding the seat at this time but haven't ruled out the lowering kit either. Due to a broken arm I won't be able to do any real riding to compare with my Fatboy for a while yet. I defied gravity while on a ladder. Guess who won that contest!!!!!! HAHAHA

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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby mbuesing » Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:55 pm

Welcome to the GL1800, you will love it. I missed a few little things about my Venture the first weeks. But soon forgot about them considering all the big things the Wing can do.
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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby Timma04 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:01 pm

themainviking wrote:I doubt there was really anything "wrong" with the Harley - it is the nature of the beast to vibrate. It is part of why we love them. Riding a Harley gives one a "Wild Colonial Boy" feeling - sorta medieval or cowboy. The last of the rough, tough and hard to bluff folk. I rode them for 47 years, and enjoyed every mile, but age and tendonitis brought an end to it. I bought the Goldwing, and rode 14,000 plus miles this year alone (23,000 Kms), with no tendonitis flareups. The joy of being back in the wind (so to speak, behind that huge windshield) is something I was missing for the last five or more years. I miss the absolute mania of riding a softail custom, but if all I can ride in a day is a hundred miles, there needed to be something better. The Goldwing was all that and a bag of chips. Riding, for me, is like meditation. All the cares of the world go away and I become one with the machine (kinda difficult with a wing, easier with a softail, but you get the picture). I accepted that I would rather ride than not, so the Goldwing it is, and will continue to be into the future. I just love this bike. Anybody wanna buy a Softail Custom????? :lol:

I hope you enjoy as many miles on your Goldwing as I have and will on mine.

If there was nothing wrong with the bike, why the push for a factory reman?? They don't even divulge the problem with the motor ( I suspect crappy flywheels) when they send it back to be installed. Maybe reimbursment of some kind would suffice. Yeah, that would happen when Hawaii freezes over.....

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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby themainviking » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:26 pm

Timma04 wrote:If there was nothing wrong with the bike, why the push for a factory reman?? They don't even divulge the problem with the motor ( I suspect crappy flywheels) when they send it back to be installed. Maybe reimbursment of some kind would suffice. Yeah, that would happen when Hawaii freezes over.....


The poster did not say this was under warrantee, so assuming he paid for the motor, why would they NOT push for a new one?
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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby Timma04 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:38 am

No warranty-just typical Harley blow-you-off service. By the way, I have several items of HD clothing that are for sale-no warranty!

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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby snackpak » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:19 pm

You could always consider having the seat cut down. Try www.meancitycycle.com for seat and height comfort.

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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby torino73 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:54 pm

The 1800 Wing is a great ride after the "acclimation" period. Be careful, be safe and enjoy!

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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby snackpak » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:44 am

Rode my first Harley( Road King) at a Harley demo ride this past August. I was not impressed after riding my wing for the last 3 years and my VTX 1800 Retro for 4 years prior to that. Burnt my right boot on the pipes and the heat coming off of the engine and pipes was Hot. Glad I didn't buy one in 2005. Love my Wing. A Jet on 2 wheels.

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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby 2008retiredplb » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:36 pm

Your going to love your wing if you are like me and ride it everywhere.
The first thing I noticed when going to a Harley dealer shop is the number of mechanics they have compared to a Honda shop. That should tell you something about the Harley.

There are a number of seat mods you can do to lower or make it easier to reach the ground. I had "WingSoft" do my seat and I could not believe the difference it made in comfort and it was a lot cheaper than going with a complete seat replacement. They were one of the few that will work with the factory heated seat. I had them redo the passenger backrest (so the passenger sits more upright), redid the seat cushion on both the passenger and the driver seat all for about $500 not $1200 to 1500. I still would like to have them remove a little of the cushion at the drivers sides where your legs hang down so you can reach the ground a little better. I did the passenger seat because my wife (the Boss) could not stand how far back she leaned and it made her back hurt. Before the mod, she could only ride for about a hundred miles or a couple of hours and she needed to stop and rest. After the mod she could ride tank to tank (220 to 250 miles) with no discomfort like she had before. And if she ain't happy, nobody is happy.
This last summer we did a 3700 mile ride to Wing Ding and then up the Blue Ridge Parkway all the way through the Shenandoah Skyline and then into West Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, New York, Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine before returning to Illinois.

Try a few seats out before you do anything, it may help to decide what you want.
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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby kc8cta » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:03 pm

Got to love the wing..... :D
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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby 2008retiredplb » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:30 pm

Go for it, you will never regret it. I love my 2009 and my 2001 I used to have. I have ridden around 75,000 miles since I got my first GL1800. I have never even thought of owning anything else.
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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby kc8cta » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:49 pm

2008retiredplb wrote:Go for it, you will never regret it. I love my 2009 and my 2001 I used to have. I have ridden around 75,000 miles since I got my first GL1800. I have never even thought of owning anything else.

What kind of windshield do you have?
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Re: 2004 GL 1800, considering making this purchase.

Postby ralph2723 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:11 pm

Gotta love a wing..Heres a solution to your height issue. A Trike does not care how challenged you are




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