regular or hightest??


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regular or hightest??

Postby okstay » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:11 pm



Who can share some light on gasoline. I have heard stories about using regular in goldwings and doing valve damage. But I have never seen one with valve damage. My manual says I can use regular [87 octane]. What would be the benefit of using 89 or higher octane? Please share any info or thoughts, or even some facts on gasoline. Thanks, Chris

Please share some info on any wings with high mileage and what kind of octane gas you used.



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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby GRAPEAPE94 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:41 pm

I have been using mid-grade (89) octane since I bought my '06 new and have had no problems. If I don't go crazy with the throttle I get 40 mpg. I know someone down here that gets his fuel at a marina (no ethonal) and says that his milage improved dramaticly.

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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby Steve F » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:17 pm

Regular gas should be all you need, unless there's "pinging" or knock. If that's the case, your timing is likely off, or you're lugging the engine. The compression ration on these bikes isn't high enough to warrant using the high octane stuff, and if you do, you're just wasting your money.
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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby Al Waters » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:32 pm

I have been using Regular with no problems. I will admit that I used Premium when I traveled throughout Colorado in the 10,000+ foot elevations.
Best I could tell I got better mileage in doing so.
You should all be getting better mileage and performance than I anyway as I live in California.

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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby Sally » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:12 pm

Use reg. gas.. what most people don't relize if the pump don't have three seprate hoses for grades of gas it takes between 2 and 3 gals of gas to switch over.It has to pump from another tank fill pipes, filters and pump hose so half or more is reg. at the higher price.. But the next guy in line like you because he get 3 gals on high test for less... Sally

If you ride with a die hard then I would use same pump after him.. HE HE HEE :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby okstay » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:13 pm

Thanks for your opinions on regular gas but could you please post what year bike you have and the mileage? And what area of the country you ride and live in. Thanks...

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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby okstay » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:27 pm

In my 2005 wing I ran regular without any problems at all. When I took day trips with my sons, I usually get near 50 mpg. This is on the highway at 60 mph in the summer with temps around 80 degrees. And with my wife on the back. No headwind either. I have gotten as little as 40 on daytrips when there was a headwind and we were traveling at 70 mph. I live in northeast Pa. I can't say what kind of mileage my 2012 wings gets yet because I don't have many miles on it yet. The 2012 does seem a little leaner at low throttle settings and during warm up. I always give my bikes a few minutes of warm up but the 2012 has flat throttle response until it is completely warmed up. The 2005 has great throttle response even when it is cold. I hope this equates to better mileage on the 2012. In our area, premium gas is more than 50 cents a gallon more the regular. In some stations it is 70 cents a gallon more. Furthermore, I have noticed many of the gas stations in our area have stopped selling premium gas. When I have asked them why they tell me they don't sell much of it since the gas prices have climed above 3.50 a gallon. I am currently running regular in my 2012. I have less than a 1000 miles on it. This is one big plus over the Harleys I have owned. I still love harleys too...

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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby MikeB » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:45 pm

Regular. You are just throwing your money away if you use anything but Regular.
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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby dragon2000 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:25 pm

Sally wrote:Use reg. gas.. what most people don't relize if the pump don't have three seprate hoses for grades of gas it takes between 2 and 3 gals of gas to switch over.It has to pump from another tank fill pipes, filters and pump hose so half or more is reg. at the higher price.. But the next guy in line like you because he get 3 gals on high test for less... Sally

If you ride with a die hard then I would use same pump after him.. HE HE HEE :lol: :lol: :lol:


Sally brings up a good point. If your bone dry and it takes that much to get to the high test, you are getting ripped off. For us here in Canada, a lot of our fuel is ethanol blended. One of the reasons I love driving/filling up in the U.S other than the cheaper fuel, whether it is in my car or Wing is that I seem to get better gas mileage. I believe it is probably because there is less Ethanol content.
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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby Cal-D » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:37 pm

Sally
First off, it does not take 2or3 gallons to switch from reg to hightest at the pump, the actual number is less than one litre/quart.

Steve
US gas in most places is 10% ethanol. Here in Canada some areas have 10%, some are 5% and here in NS 0% . The higher content of Ethanol the lower gas mileage you will get with any internal combustion engine. I track my mileage and when in the US I lose about 8-10% mileage or about 4 MPG. That lose of MPG is the about the same if I am driving my 03 wing or 2012 Hyundia. One of the reasons Enviroment Canada resisted use of ethanol is one of the by-products of burning ethanol is increased level of toxins like Ethanolacetaldehyde and formaldehyde.
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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby druidcat1115 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:55 pm

Just use reg gas avoid ethanol if possible. high test is just throwing money away and could cause your engine to overheat but i have neve heard of a case if it doing so.

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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby tommyherman » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:57 pm

Just purchased my GL1800. Have been riding a Roadstar (1700 V twin) . I used regular gas and added an ounce of Marine Stabil per tank. The Marine stabil is designed to fight ethanol. It also keeps things clean. Will try Regular and High test in my GW, (with marine Stabil) however I seriously doubrt the HT will help. The lower Octane is faster burning. The GW does not have a high Compression engine. You can buy a 32oz bottle of marine stabil at wally world for around $20. Will last a long time at 1 oz per tank. If that don't work try a bottle of Killians Irish Red..... but in your tank not the Bikes.... :-)
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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby Sally » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:31 pm

Well all I know is that's what the local station told me about 2 gals his pumps are about 40 feet away under the parking lot and feed with a 1" pipe feed and his pumps have about a 1 quart filter cap.plus pump hose That's just what they calulated there seemed resonable to me. Sally 02 Gl1800 and get 40 mpg.

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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby dragon2000 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:31 pm

Cal-D wrote:Sally
First off, it does not take 2or3 gallons to switch from reg to hightest at the pump, the actual number is less than one litre/quart.

Steve
US gas in most places is 10% ethanol. Here in Canada some areas have 10%, some are 5% and here in NS 0% . The higher content of Ethanol the lower gas mileage you will get with any internal combustion engine. I track my mileage and when in the US I lose about 8-10% mileage or about 4 MPG. That lose of MPG is the about the same if I am driving my 03 wing or 2012 Hyundia. One of the reasons Enviroment Canada resisted use of ethanol is one of the by-products of burning ethanol is increased level of toxins like Ethanolacetaldehyde and formaldehyde.
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It's funny you mentioned the company's going to the straight ethanol blend. We used to be able to choose which is to say select the green pump or just regular. The green pump is now gone and they all say the fuel contains up to 10% ethanol.

Thanks for the info.
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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby docgood » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:24 am

My manual for the Australian Market 2009 Gl1800 just plainly states "avoid ethanol" and other spirit additives. Cant be more plainer than that. Anyway ethanol, although available in a lot of outlets is not, I feel, well accepted in this country.But we wont go there will we. Thanks for the advice, as I have been using "premium" fuel, always. Consumption great at less than 6 litres/100 km - or about 47 MP imperal gallon, not the US one, Without the camper. Difference here in regular and premium is about $0.05 c/litre, say about $0.23, imperial gallon. Looks like I have been a bit too cautious with my fuel selection. There is some fear here that some state Govts. may mandate ethanol at th 10% in regular fuel. Just a dingo backdown to the greenies. Thanks for the advice.

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Re: regular or hightest??

Postby kc8cta » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:08 pm

Just use reg gas avoid ethanol if possible. high test is just throwing money away


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