Neon coil on gl1000...any new info?


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Mfnheff
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Neon coil on gl1000...any new info?

Post by Mfnheff » Sun May 20, 2018 7:34 pm



I've read all the info I can find from searching and Google. But it seems the posts directly related to points-fired bikes don't get many answers. I read of a guy having problems with his kill switch wires getting hot, and then nothing.
So...will using a neon coil fry my points faster?
Will my wiring fry and die? I couldn't care less if the kill switch works, I've never had a bike with such new devices.
I have a weak coil, and i don't want to replace coils with used coils. Rather do something new and not have to worry about it something used crapping out. Not to mention cost and availability.
But, if It's going to burn up points 10x faster, or melt wires, that is only creating more problems.



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Re: Neon coil on gl1000...any new info?

Post by SnoBrdr » Sun May 20, 2018 8:36 pm

Mfnheff wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 7:34 pm
I've read all the info I can find from searching and Google. But it seems the posts directly related to points-fired bikes don't get many answers. I read of a guy having problems with his kill switch wires getting hot, and then nothing.
So...will using a neon coil fry my points faster?
Will my wiring fry and die? I couldn't care less if the kill switch works, I've never had a bike with such new devices.
I have a weak coil, and i don't want to replace coils with used coils. Rather do something new and not have to worry about it something used crapping out. Not to mention cost and availability.
But, if It's going to burn up points 10x faster, or melt wires, that is only creating more problems.
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Re: Neon coil on gl1000...any new info?

Post by DaveO430 » Sun May 20, 2018 8:53 pm

The neon coil was my idea and it works very well on 1100s and 1200s but as you see very little feedback on 1000s. A ballast resistor is probably a must, what ohm value I don't know and what effect it will have on spark intensity I don't know either. I have just acquired a non running 1000 and if It turns out good and I keep it a while I may experiment some.

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Re: Neon coil on gl1000...any new info?

Post by Mfnheff » Sun May 20, 2018 9:01 pm

The neon coil has higher or lower resistance than oe coils?
If it's gonna be a headache later on with wiring and points etc, maybe ill just swap over to those eBay gl1100 coils.

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Re: Neon coil on gl1000...any new info?

Post by Mfnheff » Mon May 21, 2018 6:00 am

Disregard. I was digging deep on eBay and got 6 dyna dc1-1 coils for $63 shipped. So that should take care of my coil needs for awhile

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Re: Neon coil on gl1000...any new info?

Post by DaveO430 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:46 pm

I can now say with certainty a neon coil will work on a 1000. Got my 76 running but no fire to #3, sparks were jumping at the coils. I tried a set of 1100 coils, which work but there is not enough room for them. I checked the amp draw on bot the stock coils and the 80-81 1100 coils, both about 5 amps at idle, the neon coils draw considerably more. I added a ballast resistor from the 1100 coils, 1.5 ohms to the neon coil, in series in the black/white wire and now they draw about 4 amps. Checked spark with my spark tester on the 1100 coils, set at 20K there is a weak spark, on the neon coils at the same setting you can hear the spark, snap. I did have to cut about 2" off the intake horn to make room and built a bracket for the coil. I had already added a relay for the ignition and just use the kill switch to trigger the relay. I do intend to open up the plug gap since there is now plenty of spark.



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