Cam tensioner tools


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Cam tensioner tools

Post by 702scottc » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:58 am



I want to check the valve clearance on my bike, runs fine but has 83 k on it and I'm not sure they have ever been checked. Where can I get the tools to release the tensioner? Dealer wants $500 to check them, more than I'm willing to pay.



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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by GoldWingrGreg » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:41 am

Do you have ABS ????

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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by MikeB » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:37 am

You will not like the price; they are over $75 each and can be obtained from Partzilla (https://www.partzilla.com/).

Tensioner holder A - 07ZMG-MCAA300, Tensioner holder B - 07ZMG-MCAA400

Tensioner A is really all you will need. It is the same as Tensioner B but has a rod that can be inserted in the hole in the knurled knob so that the holding rod and cord can be used.

Greg, what is the significance between ABS or not when doing a valve clearance check? The ABS modulators are not in the way are they?
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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by 702scottc » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:41 am

Thanks for the info. Can you get by with just 1 and check 1 side at a time? I found a local shop that has the tools and will check them for $150 and if the cams have to be removed it's $300 out the door. It's a reputable shop that's been around a while. I'm tempted just to drop the bike off. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea of having to release the tension to check the valves? The only difference between static and slack would be the oil clearance on the cams.

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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by MikeB » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:53 am

In the service manual it says "Failure to loosen the cam chain tensioners will result in inaccurate valve clearance measurement, due to the force of the cam chain on the camshaft."
But truthfully, I have not noticed a difference in readings with the cam tensioners loose or not.
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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by 702scottc » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:23 pm

Honesly I think I`m going to leave it alone, runs great no noise of any kind. Its more of a peace of mind issue rather than it needing to be done. Based on what I`ve read from others, valve issues are non-issues on the 1800 engine.

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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by MikeB » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:30 pm

While no noise is normal, keep in mind that the valve lash tightens as it wears, not loosens. So you will not hear any tappet noise. The clearance only gets tighter with age.
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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by PastoT » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:25 pm

Google "K&L Cam Chain Tensioner Holder" they are just over $50
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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by 702scottc » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:37 pm

Thanks, I like that price better. I ordered 1. I'll just check 1 side at a time, might take longer but at least I'll know.

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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by PastoT » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:56 am

That's exactly my plan on the morning. I just replaced coils and stripped my 02 down so I can check valves first thing in the morning while my patience and eyesight is better. I bought a metric feeler gauge, tensioner and shim kit a couple months ago.
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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by GoldWingrGreg » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:55 am

MikeB wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:37 am


Greg, what is the significance between ABS or not when doing a valve clearance check? The ABS modulators are not in the way are they?
ABS and non-ABS requires a different tool ... that's why Honda makes 2 tools. The ABS modulator on the right side interferes.

Be sure to get a tool that is no fatter then the OEM tool. Depending on a frame weld just above the tension on the right side, on rare occasions, the OEM tool is to fat to use.

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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by 702scottc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:46 am

Mine is a non-abs model so the K&L tool should work fine on both sides. It's smaller than the one Honda shows in the manual. I may just break down and order another so I can do both sides at once, still a $50 savings over the honda tools. What shim kit would you recommend? I probably should get a new feeler gauge as well.
It's pretty warm down here this time of year, hit 114 on Wednesday. Hard to get motivated to tear into a project like this till after a Labor Day.lol. A co-worker and myself are riding to Georgia in late July to look at a new bus we have purchased at work. Gonna hit the Tail of the Dragon on the ride home. Probably pull it down when we return when I service it.

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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by keithg64 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:42 pm

Is there any info on a diy chain tensioners. I'm a machinist and can make just about anything but I haven't seen a lot of info on this.
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Re: Cam tensioner tools

Post by 702scottc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:10 pm

I'm sure you can make tools that will work. Buy a used tensioner from eBay and play around with it. A flat blade screwdriver and a locking device would do it.



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