2nd Amendment

Tinslinger · Post by **Tinslinger** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:45 am

I know there are a lot of opinions on the 2nd Amendment, and I'm not going to preach about it. Rather, I was pleasantly surprised when I stopped by a local motorcycle store this morning and saw this sign posted on the door.

thrasherg · Post by **thrasherg** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:45 pm

What a positive message, you should name the store (and location) as it sounds like the kind of place, many of us would like to do business with.

Gary

Post by **WingAdmin** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:26 pm

I know exactly where you were.

You were at Cyclemax - I was in there not long ago and saw the same sign. I made a comment to Gary at the time about it. Glad to see vendors doing this.

Tinslinger · Post by **Tinslinger** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:03 pm

Ok, the cat's outta the bag. LOL It was, indeed, Cyclemax, and Gary is good to deal with. I might add that they have a great website, and that most of their business is from the internet side of the business.

wally · Post by **wally** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:03 pm

I'm all in for supporting a business that supports the 2nd amendment.

Post by **WingAdmin** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:19 pm

Cyclemax is indeed an excellent business. They have consistently amongst the lowest prices you'll find on the web, beyond outstanding customer service, and they're good, honest people.

HALBUDD · Post by **HALBUDD** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:22 pm

Ill second that!!! Would love to see more sings like that. Hal

thrasherg · Post by **thrasherg** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:25 pm

HALBUDD wrote:Ill second that!!! Would love to see more sings like that. Hal

I am tone deaf, so no singing please, but more signs!!

Gary

HALBUDD · Post by **HALBUDD** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:43 pm

Ok Gary my spell checker missed that one, I would go back and edit it but then your post would not be as funny haha. Hal

Viking · Post by **Viking** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:13 pm

I wish we had 2nd amendment rights..... aww shoot - oh wait, I didn't mean that....

seabee_ · Post by **seabee_** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:30 pm

I think if more banks and party stores posted these signs there would be less robberies.

I'm all for it.

Post by **WingAdmin** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:25 am

Essentially (in this state, at least), any store that DOESN'T post a sign banning legal concealed carry, is in effect welcoming it.

I simply identify those stores/restaurants/etc. that DO post such "gun buster" type signs, and choose to take my business and my money elsewhere.

Tinslinger · Post by **Tinslinger** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:41 am

I'm with you there, Wing. If I see that sign on the door, I won't even go in. I used to go to Cleats for the wings and atmosphere and Pepsi, but no more. He was very vocal about being against the so called 'restaurant' carry bill. Pizza Hut is another that fired a driver who carried in his own car delivering pizza. Heck, I'd certainly carry if I delivered pizza, and I wouldn't leave it in the car either! It would be concealed on me someplace. But to each his own. They have the perfect right to keep guns out of their businesses. I simply have the right to shop someplace else.

Post by **WingAdmin** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:47 am

That sign can be downloaded and printed from here: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/publicfi ... W-Sign.pdf

I particularly like this one - you can give it to any establishment with a "gun buster" sign to replace their existing one: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/publicfiles/CPZ_Sign.pdf

I've also got some of these in the glove box of my truck - I've left them with a few "signed" establishments before: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/publicfi ... M-card.pdf

dingdong · Post by **dingdong** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:10 am

I always knew there was a reason I like visiting here. Good for you, Admin. Question. What has the response been when you leave that sign at an establishment?

Post by **WingAdmin** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:31 am

dingdong wrote:I always knew there was a reason I like visiting here. Good for you, Admin. Question. What has the response been when you leave that sign at an establishment?

I've always thought the argument that "criminals will ignore your sign, your sign only prevents lawful, licensed, trained, trustworthy people from carrying guns in here" would work - but the rabid anti-gun people ignore common sense and just typically counter with "I don't want guns in here". Further arguing that "but people DO bring guns in here - they're just criminals - and they ignore your sign" is usually ignored. I had one guy tell me, "but I don't KNOW they've got guns." I said, "but you wouldn't know that the LEGALLY armed people have guns either!" He ended the conversation at that point.

I don't know...I am an extremely rational, logical person, and when people fight logical arguments with hysteria and emotion, ignoring obvious facts, it just mystifies me.

dawgout81 · Post by **dawgout81** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:01 pm

This subject makes me feel "at home."

Sometimes I get to thinking "am I the only one???" Glad to hear there are others who are "sane" according to my way of thinking.

Post by **WingAdmin** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:21 am

dawgout81 wrote:This subject makes me feel "at home."

Sometimes I get to thinking "am I the only one???" Glad to hear there are others who are "sane" according to my way of thinking.

There's lots of us...and for some reason, we seem to be over-represented in the Goldwing population at large. Similarly, there seems to be a lot of pilots who are also Goldwing owners. As well as ex-military.

twostrokes48 · Post by **twostrokes48** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:17 pm

I think the Goldwing is just an extension of the personality type....I think it is actually most all who ride bikes...In general these people tend to be independing thinkers, self sufficient, responsible people. They have no use for freeloaders of any type. There are 49 million people on food stamps. I would bet less than 1 percent ride goldwings...There are tons of people that intentionally ride out unemployment for the 99 weeks even though their profession would have plenty of jobs available. I doubt if any of them are goldwing riders.. I could continue, but you get my point. Having a CHL is just part of taking care of self and loved ones.

2008retiredplb · Post by **2008retiredplb** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:43 pm

I downloaded this a while ago and have it posted on my office wall.

A WORD TO THE WISE 
Comments and sayings from various Conceal Carry Instructors.  ...

It is always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. 
And you can take that to the bank.  

Words of Wisdom:
 If you own a gun, you will appreciate this.
If not, you should get one and learn how to use it.

  Shooting Advice:
 Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not to protect you.
*****
 'Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arm's  length and never say "I've got a gun". If you feel you need to use deadly force, for heaven's sake let the first sound they hear be the safety clicking off. They shouldn't have time to hear anything after that if you are doing your job.'
 *****
 'The average response time of a 911 call is over 23 minutes, the response time 
of a 9mm/.357 or .44 magnum is 1400 feet per second.'
*****
 "The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win - and cheat if necessary."
 *****
 "Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets. You may get killed with your own gun, but he'll have to beat you to death with it, cause it's going to be empty."
 *****
 "If you end up in a gun fight, if you're not shooting,' you should be loading.' If you're not loading', you should be moving', if you're not moving', your dead."
 *****
 "In a life and death situation, do something. It may be wrong, but do  something."
 *****
 "If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That's ridiculous. If you  have a gun, what in the hell do you have to be paranoid for?"
 *****
 "You can say 'stop' or 'alto' or use any other word you think will work, but  I've found that a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is  pretty much the universal language." 
*****
 "You have the rest of your life to solve your problems. How long you  live depends on how well you do it."
 *****
 "You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and  your family."

Another saying I use is:
"A 12 gauge pump action shotgun speaks/yells a thousand words everytime you pump the action, If that person is still there after that, 1st shot is, shoot to Kill."

Post by **WingAdmin** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:22 pm

They allow guns in Illinois?

WA9FWT · Post by **WA9FWT** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:09 pm

I love the sign's ( Thanks ) I made a few copy's'
Lets say, I walk in with a concealed pistol after I just saw a sign saying " No Gun " Allowed !
The establishment finds out I have a concealed pistol.....What happens then ?

WA9FWT Phil

Mike 545 · Post by **Mike 545** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:34 pm

They will ask you to leave and return without the gun, but they cannot legally force you to remove the gun.

2008retiredplb · Post by **2008retiredplb** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:10 pm

WingAdmin wrote:They allow guns in Illinois?

They don't allow us concealed carry yet but we are close to getting it passed.
The way it is now, the only ones with concealed carry are the criminals because they don't obey the laws anyway.

Just can't figure why those idiots in Chicago can't see it.

At least we got the hand gun ban in Chicago overturned. But you better not get caught in Chicago with one outside of your house.

I guess the citizens of Illinois are just dumber that the people in the other 49 states. Look who we sent to run this country, Obama (another Chicago politician). Gives you a good idea of the thinking in Chicago.

I understand Illinois is going to change the state bird from the cardinal to the Jailbird because most of the politicians are crooks. We now have at least two of our former governors currently serving prison terms. And If they would get bold enough to follow through with investigation of Obama we should have him in prison also.

jasonv · Post by **jasonv** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:02 pm

Great sign!

Guns are my other major hobby with motorcycles. I just got off a 10 year gun craze and now drifted back to motorcycles. It goes in cycles. I do need to pick up a couple more AR15s for my kids though.

I just renewed my concealed carry permit. It really aggravated the heck out of me I have to get a permit to exercise my right. I also open carry on my body sometimes. Usually have a weapon or two in the car I am driving as well.

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