GWRRA Members ???


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I like it fine the way things are, they're going in the right direction
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7%
Wing World is one big advertisement
108
16%
Wing Ding is a huge money grab
99
15%
I'm not a member, and don't care to be
74
11%
I appreciate the ads in Wing World, I like seeing products that are available for my bike
94
14%
I can't stand all the expanding trike coverage in Wing World
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9%
I won't be renewing my membership
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6%
I love my local chapter, that's what it's all about
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I look forward to Wing Ding all year
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2%
I'm only a member for the Gold Book/Rescue Plus
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by cbx4evr » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:54 am



redial wrote:For that matter, in the latest edition (Dec13), there are ads that I would not expect to find in a motorcycle publication. (For example, P41, the ad for Nerium; p3, the add for Gravity Defyer (shoes that do not cover the ankles); p17, jewelery ad; p21, ad for an eczema Natures Rite Rash Relief. What is GWRRA promoting? No wonder the members are complaining about the magazine.

The bulk of the membership is getting on in years so the ads reflect and cater to that. I'm waiting for the ads for Viagra and Depends.

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"It´s a friggen motorcycle, it´s not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you s**t your pants every now and then. "

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by txwingman » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:18 pm

After reading all the comments posted about this subject I feel compelled to throw in my 2 cents worth, which by the way, doesn't happen too often. I agree with some, more so than others and I disagree with some, more so than others. With an organization of this magnitude, as the old saying goes, "you can't please everybody all the time". It is what it is, which it has turned into a business over the past few years and that's the sad truth, be that as it may.
I can say that because I've seen it evolve over the past 34 yrs. I bought my first Wing in 1978 and joined GWRRA in 1979 and I've been a member ever since, earning my life member status in 1999. I'm also a life member of 2 other major motorcycle organizations (AMA & Texas Motorcycle Roadriders Association). I became a member of the IBA in 1997 and also ride with the N. Texas PGR. My first Wing Ding was WD II in Phoenix Az. in 1980. I've attended 17 more Wing Dings across this country over the years. At a few of those WD's I participated in bike shows, bike games and Top Gun competition, holding 3 Top Gun titles also having earned the very first perfect score in Top Gun competition in GWRRA history at WD XX in Huntsville AL. Over the years I've been involved with 2 local chapters, 1 large and 1 small holding officer positions in both. The large chapter is still in operation today and small chapter folded due to stringent GWRRA policies. I choose to no longer participate in chapter life. But the core group of members of the small chapter still meet once a month and we still ride together because we've made life long friendships because of GWRRA. So there's good points and bad points about GWRRA and I could go into detail here but it's already been said in many of the other comments. I have my opinions, good and bad about the organization and how it's run but, they're just my opinions. So it all boils down to the fact that you ride your own ride and do what's best for you and yours.
Well, I think I went over the 2 cents worth limit here. Ride On! 8-)
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by Viking » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:27 pm

txwingman wrote:After reading all the comments posted about this subject I feel compelled to throw in my 2 cents worth, which by the way, doesn't happen too often. I agree with some, more so than others and I disagree with some, more so than others. With an organization of this magnitude, as the old saying goes, "you can't please everybody all the time". It is what it is, which it has turned into a business over the past few years and that's the sad truth, be that as it may.
I can say that because I've seen it evolve over the past 34 yrs. I bought my first Wing in 1978 and joined GWRRA in 1979 and I've been a member ever since, earning my life member status in 1999. I'm also a life member of 2 other major motorcycle organizations (AMA & Texas Motorcycle Roadriders Association). I became a member of the IBA in 1997 and also ride with the N. Texas PGR. My first Wing Ding was WD II in Phoenix Az. in 1980. I've attended 17 more Wing Dings across this country over the years. At a few of those WD's I participated in bike shows, bike games and Top Gun competition, holding 3 Top Gun titles also having earned the very first perfect score in Top Gun competition in GWRRA history at WD XX in Huntsville AL. Over the years I've been involved with 2 local chapters, 1 large and 1 small holding officer positions in both. The large chapter is still in operation today and small chapter folded due to stringent GWRRA policies. I choose to no longer participate in chapter life. But the core group of members of the small chapter still meet once a month and we still ride together because we've made life long friendships because of GWRRA. So there's good points and bad points about GWRRA and I could go into detail here but it's already been said in many of the other comments. I have my opinions, good and bad about the organization and how it's run but, they're just my opinions. So it all boils down to the fact that you ride your own ride and do what's best for you and yours.
Well, I think I went over the 2 cents worth limit here. Ride On! 8-)
Well said, and my hat is off to you. I will never be a life member of GWRRA, but oddly enough I have been a life member of H.O.G. since 1988. I do not find their chapters run any smoother than GWRRA chapters do. And as has been mentioned, this is my opinion only. We are all human and we either like or do not like according to our own philosophies. More power to those who love GWRRA, and more power to those who don't. That is my philosophy. My previous postings, on this subject, on the other hand were my EXPERIENCE, as opposed to my opinions. They are far more objective than my opinions tend to be.
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by stitch0852 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:05 pm

I have only been riding a Goldwing for about a year. I started last September after purchasing my brother's 86 1200. I then purchased a 1995 1500 this July and love it. However, I don't have opportunities for riding with groups and truth be told, I am not sure I would be comfortable riding in a crowd, having never done so.

I would like to point out though, reading the comments, that many believe a lack of a wave is a slight from the other rider.

Please be aware that even though the other rider may be disrespectful in not returning your friendly wave, there are hosts of other reasons they may not.

1. I did not know it was customary to do this until I went through the Basic Motorcycle Rider course. So it may be they just don't know.
2. Maybe your oncoming rider is not very experienced and not able to take their hand off the handlebar for a quick wave, in which case you might be happier to not get that wave.
3. Maybe they are preparing for a turn or other maneuver where keeping both hand on the bars is best for them and you.
4. Maybe they are just being a total butt because you aren't riding their kind of bike.

The point is that there are a variety of reasons someone may not return your wave. I try when I can, but I am getting accustomed to a bigger bike and sometimes I may not be able to wave quick enough. Please don't take my lack of one as a slight. I would have waved had I seen you quicker, not been doing something where I wished to maintain full control of my bike, or whatever other reason I didn't, but it is not from a lack of mutual respect.

As far as membership, for me it comes down to finances. I just paid off my Goldwing this week, so funds have been very tight. None left for memberships.

Not even sure if there is a local chapter in my remote neck of the woods.

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by redial » Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:31 am

There is a GWRRA Chapter at Owatonna, about 33 miles from you. I will PM you with a few more details extracted from the Wing World magazine, Dec13 issue.
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by Fatwing Chris » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:12 am

stitch0852 wrote:I have only been riding a Goldwing for about a year. I started last September after purchasing my brother's 86 1200. I then purchased a 1995 1500 this July and love it. However, I don't have opportunities for riding with groups and truth be told, I am not sure I would be comfortable riding in a crowd, having never done so.

I would like to point out though, reading the comments, that many believe a lack of a wave is a slight from the other rider.

Please be aware that even though the other rider may be disrespectful in not returning your friendly wave, there are hosts of other reasons they may not.

1. I did not know it was customary to do this until I went through the Basic Motorcycle Rider course. So it may be they just don't know.
2. Maybe your oncoming rider is not very experienced and not able to take their hand off the handlebar for a quick wave, in which case you might be happier to not get that wave.
3. Maybe they are preparing for a turn or other maneuver where keeping both hand on the bars is best for them and you.
4. Maybe they are just being a total butt because you aren't riding their kind of bike.

The point is that there are a variety of reasons someone may not return your wave. I try when I can, but I am getting accustomed to a bigger bike and sometimes I may not be able to wave quick enough. Please don't take my lack of one as a slight. I would have waved had I seen you quicker, not been doing something where I wished to maintain full control of my bike, or whatever other reason I didn't, but it is not from a lack of mutual respect.

As far as membership, for me it comes down to finances. I just paid off my Goldwing this week, so funds have been very tight. None left for memberships.

Not even sure if there is a local chapter in my remote neck of the woods.
Did I read this right?
Your Basic Motorcycle Training course said it was customary to wave to other riders and the trainer condoned this?i would have thought that he would say this is a no-no and just pay attention to what you're supposed to be doing.Never taken a course myself so I'm just guessing.
I think that #4 is the case 98% of the time IMHO
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by Fred Camper » Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:15 pm

I think that is why I can get a wave by everybody. When you ride a naked GL, many cannot tell what they are looking at and cannot rule out they it is not a vintage version of their ride. lol.

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by dheaton » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:35 am

I have been a member of GWRRA for a couple of years now. Personally I love it. I joined for the sole purpose of finding other people that have the same passion as I do which is motorcycles. To my surprise the membership came with a publication, gold book, and many other things. I have met several people that have become very good friends and we now travel for weeks with them. That is exactly what I wanted. I live 4 hours to the closest chapter so I do not attend any meetings but I do keep in touch with them all via email. If I lived closer I would not mind being more involved in the chapter life. I do not care to wear a vest and go to all the things they need to go to but every time I do attend a meeting or convention I meet new people and have alot of fun. That is why I joined and that is why I will stay a member. The fact that I get the mag, gold book, great insurance is just a bonus.
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by theback80 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:11 am

Funny this survey came up when it did. I just got my renewal email. I'm very new to GWRRA. This will be my 2nd year. I'm going to stick it out one more year since I've never been to wing ding and its in my home State this year. There's also a brand new chapter in Duluth MN that I'd like to try out. I've never been one for group rides but I thought I'd give it try. I've never been keen on the magazine, but I didn't join for it. So I don't See that as a big deal. I mainly joined for the Forum, but have since found many other free forums. I honestly don't see myself sticking around after this year unless my local chapter is really good.

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by hotbike » Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:08 am

i love to ride where when and most times alone! never had a good time riding with more than one other cpl , also the damn events that bike clubs put on have all been so weak in the pants only grandma on her way from church need stop by! / harley owners group, gold wing riders are top of list of snooze fest day, for me its get out ride stop play , ride some more , get drunk smoke dope that nite , ride next day have fun see stuff, ride some more, social contacts need not last longer than hello at the pumps or overnite with a pretty girl! then ride some more!
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by gwrramea2012 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:46 pm

Ok here's my take. I joined GWRRA just for the road rescue service. I realize that I can purchase it on my own for a bit more. I like receiving the mag. for 1 reason. Stu Ottmans column. I have yet to find anyone that has his knowledge.
If GWRRA has lost it's way it's the fault of it's members, after all you get out what you put in.

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by jajeanquart » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:39 pm

Jeff in sturgeon bay, wisconsin
For one, I am looking forward to a Wisconsin Wing Ding
Yes, the magazine does look a lttle thinner, but as others have mentioned, i like looking at the adds to see parts availability for my GL1500
I would enjoy more articles on the electrical aspect of the bike,,,,the dumbies guide to wiring accessories....
Cycle Max sells the Power Plate for 50 bucks, I was wondering if the dude who made up the 7 volt regulator would be able to fashion one up and offer it as a less expensive alternative ....... Although I havn't been on any Chapter M rides, my 82 wing suffered the ol' stator failure this summer, but now that I have my 91 Wing, I will be much more active in group activities, even though I will have to travel 45 miles to get there...no biggie...
All in all, no complaints.........thanx......

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:38 pm

jajeanquart wrote: Cycle Max sells the Power Plate for 50 bucks, I was wondering if the dude who made up the 7 volt regulator would be able to fashion one up and offer it as a less expensive alternative .......
I'm the "dude" that made up the 7 volt regulator. I looked at the power plate, and yes, I could probably fashion one after sourcing the parts for about half that price. But I'd spend hours sourcing the parts, more hours putting it all together, more hours trying to make sure it fit properly...so I didn't bother, and I bought the power plate. Quite happy with it, and it is made of very high quality parts.

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by cbx4evr » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:47 am

jajeanquart wrote: Cycle Max sells the Power Plate for 50 bucks, I was wondering if the dude who made up the 7 volt regulator would be able to fashion one up and offer it as a less expensive alternative .......
That's what happens when you have to pay for North American made quality products - you have to open your wallet a little wider. We're never happy. We complain about cheap priced, low quality Chinese products and then do the same with quality American/Canadian made higher priced stuff. :?
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by larrycole » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:59 am

I wrote to the new WW editor regarding an article in the January issue he wrote about driving around the midwest with his photographer...in a Nissan. That and the fact that they reversed the picture of a GL1000 engine on page 9. I got a nice reply from Kevin immediately. No point in just complaining unless you give them (hopefully) constructive input.

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Post by greyfox » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:56 pm

Greetings - salutations - & best wishes to all for a blessed, healthy, & prosperous New Year!
W/re: the issue about the direction of this goldwings place --
FIRST! - I do not know much about the website - how it is structured, who does all the work, how it is supported, etc., etc.......
I have not used it much but I do ENJOY reading the 'chats, jokes, etc' & there seems to be an endless source of info for all involved no matter what the issue -
be it tech, personal, how-to, on&on.
Personally I see nothing wrong with the whole website & thank all who make it work!
From years of 'miles & whiskers' my perspective & opinion is this: the first to bitch about anything are those who are getting something for nothing but want it different to suit their personal's.
Good job! to those who put this thing together & keep it going!!!!!!!!!

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by cbx4evr » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:35 am

greyfox wrote: W/re: the issue about the direction of this goldwings place --
FIRST! - I do not know much about the website - how it is structured, who does all the work, how it is supported, etc., etc.......

Personally I see nothing wrong with the whole website & thank all who make it work!

The issue we are discussing is not about this website but about the GoldWing Road Riders Association (GWRRA), an organization to which a lot of us belong or belonged.
"It´s a friggen motorcycle, it´s not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you s**t your pants every now and then. "

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by cbx4evr » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:46 pm

larrycole wrote:I wrote to the new WW editor regarding an article in the January issue he wrote about driving around the midwest with his photographer...in a Nissan.
I just got my January WingWorld a few days ago and shook my head in disbelief over that article. I thought it was supposed to be about riding a GoldWing not driving a rental vehicle.

What was his response to your writing him?
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by redial » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:28 am

It appears that the new editor of WingWorld has hired a group of journalists that are more used to creature comforts than the experience of riding. Unlike the previous editor who rode a GW herself, and would take trips around - at least she had some credibility. I dont think the new editor would know if there was an airlock in the upper cylinder or not.

If you have concerns, then write in to their forum, and state your issues. If I get my Jan14 WW, I intend to follow up with a comment (in green, of course), on their site. Dont be part of the silent majority, but a part of the noisy majority. Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the most oil!
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by cbx4evr » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:21 am

redial wrote:If you have concerns, then write in to their forum, and state your issues. If I get my Jan14 WW, I intend to follow up with a comment (in green, of course), on their site.

Just wondering which forum you are talking about. Actually I think I know. Is it here: http://gwrrabbs.org/forum/

That is a pretty sleepy place. I don't know if anyone from the "home office" even checks in there.
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by larrycole » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:22 pm

CBX4ever: Kevin, the new Wing World editor, said his photog had too much gear to fit on a bike, or even in a trailer. I suggest he leave the lighting kit at home and just bring a light weight tripod, a digital body and a couple lenses - or have a chase car with the gear. I'm sure they'll get a few comments about the Nissan - maybe they need an RV with a scooter on the back.

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Post by cbx4evr » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:55 am

Well the pictures were nice but I wasn't wowed by them. Certainly not what I would expect for a truckload of gear. This has got to cost the membership a bit for the Editor to take a photographer for a road trip.

I think they should leave the trip reports to the folks who ride. A picture from a point and shoot is good enough for that. This isn't Playboy after all.
"It´s a friggen motorcycle, it´s not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you s**t your pants every now and then. "

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Post by larrycole » Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:24 am

Sharon, the previous editor, published a few of my articles in WW which had photos taken with a cheap Nikon Coolpix. With most P & S cameras being 10mp and up, the image quality is good enough for the full page cover. Add a tripod and a pop-out reflector and you can do indoor reasonably well too. Next time, take the bike.

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by Uncle Fester » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:48 pm

I am contemplating joining GWRRA , mainly for the local chapter & the rider roadside assistance plan. I sent off to GWRRA for the free mag and group info and with in a week of getting my stuff in the mail, I also received a phone call from the local chapter pres inviting my wife and me to the local monthly meeting saddle over on a barstooland their Christmas party too.

I have not joined yet, and after reading all of the posts here, I am going to ask if I can join the local chapter on a few rides, a few more meetings, and see how those go before I decide one way or the other.

Thank you all for posting your thoughts on this matter .
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Post by dnehasert » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:32 pm

I went on rides with different chapters before I joined, never a problem with that. Go ahead and visit/ride for a while.



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