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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:14 am



Scott Lawson's wife was killed by a car coming around a curve and taking his side of the road.... it nearly took out Scott also at the time....

I have posted about my accident with a Penske 18 semi tractor that totalled my 94SE


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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by dingdong » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:30 am

The only real "close" calls I have ever had were from the idiots crossing the center line. Probably 6 or 7 times. Most of those have been relatively recent. One actually forced us to the shoulder. More than likely due to the driver suffering from textitis.....
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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by MiWinger51 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:55 am

dingdong wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:30 am
The only real "close" calls I have ever had were from the idiots crossing the center line. Probably 6 or 7 times. Most of those have been relatively recent. One actually forced us to the shoulder. More than likely due to the driver suffering from textitis.....
Had that very thing happen to me in September. A straight stretch of highway and a truck came out to pass and ran me onto the shoulder. I had my headlight modulators on and still he didn't see me? How can you miss a 6'3" 270 lb man riding a 900 lb motorcycle, wearing hi vis jacket and headlights flashing 200 times a minute.
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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:49 am

The run to Houston and back over the last 3 days, I found quite a few driver-less cars, and they weren't the new ones made by Google either.
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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by dingdong » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:32 pm

AZgl1800 wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:49 am
The run to Houston and back over the last 3 days, I found quite a few driver-less cars, and they weren't the new ones made by Google either.


:lol: Now that's funny John!
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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:44 pm

They had to be Driver-Less, wandering between road edge to road edge..... horns honking, and me trying to dial up the Tx OHP, but they don't answer to *55 like Okie OHP boys do.

so, I hit the microphone picture and asked Google for the Tx Hp boys, and got an 800 number, no thank you, not while I am trying to drive.

Next time I go down to Houston, maybe next month..... I will have the THP boys on a magic key, Long Press 8 and it starts ringing....

Houston is not going to be a fun time, my uncle is 92 and loosing his mental faculties.
I run down to Kingston, OK and stay with my aunt that day/night and the next day we drive to Houston and spend some time with Uncle Tommy..... and he cries when we leave..... next time, we are going to preplan better, and get there at noon and stay until supper time.....

then go to our hotel and get some rest, go back the next morning, and leave about 11 so that we miss the rush hours in the major burgs we go thru.
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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by Ravyn » Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:35 pm

AZgl1800 wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:44 pm
They had to be Driver-Less, wandering between road edge to road edge..... horns honking, and me trying to dial up the Tx OHP, but they don't answer to *55 like Okie OHP boys do.

so, I hit the microphone picture and asked Google for the Tx Hp boys, and got an 800 number, no thank you, not while I am trying to drive.

Next time I go down to Houston, maybe next month..... I will have the THP boys on a magic key, Long Press 8 and it starts ringing....

Houston is not going to be a fun time, my uncle is 92 and loosing his mental faculties.
I run down to Kingston, OK and stay with my aunt that day/night and the next day we drive to Houston and spend some time with Uncle Tommy..... and he cries when we leave..... next time, we are going to preplan better, and get there at noon and stay until supper time.....

then go to our hotel and get some rest, go back the next morning, and leave about 11 so that we miss the rush hours in the major burgs we go thru.
HiJohn. Glad your back. Sorry you have to go through such hard times. I had to go through this with my lady friends mom. We watched her go from an intelligent articulate women to someone that didn't even know her own name much less ours. Took her about 3 years until she couldn't feed herself anymore.

I have something to send to you but I need to know when you are going to be home to receive it. let me know.

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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by dingdong » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:32 pm

Not always non bikers that are idiots.

http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/03/21/ ... n-air.html
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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by WingAdmin » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:44 pm

dingdong wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:32 pm
Not always non bikers that are idiots.

http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/03/21/ ... n-air.html
Notice that the rider with the camera totally loses control of his engine and can't downshift. He is so focused on the accident scene in front of him, that he pulls the clutch in to downshift, opens the throttle wide, and brakes - but doesn't complete the downshift. Instead, his brain freezes as he concentrates on the scene in front of him, allowing the declutched engine to bounce against the rev limiter as he holds the throttle open, brakes and tries to figure out what to do. This is the classic sign of an inexperienced rider who has not practiced any kind of emergency avoidance procedures. This process should be automatic, your brain shouldn't just shut down the "operate motorcycle controls" part when braking during an emergency.

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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by dingdong » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:05 pm

I'm still trying to figure out why the other "amateur " accelerated the way he did.
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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by Ravyn » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:15 pm

dingdong wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:05 pm
I'm still trying to figure out why the other "amateur " accelerated the way he did.
You will never figure it out. Like this thread said....he's an idiot !

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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by dingdong » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:55 am

Another idiot biker and driver confrontation. Lane splitting is not legal in Florida.

https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/vide ... /729744615
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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by AZgl1800 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:38 pm

went into town this morning for a water valve to fix the leaking valve on the dishwasher....

at the bridge over the river just south of us, the highway department was replacing a huge section of railing to keep vehicles from going into the drink....

hmmm, it wasn't damaged last week :?
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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by WingAdmin » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:59 am

AZgl1800 wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:38 pm
went into town this morning for a water valve to fix the leaking valve on the dishwasher....

at the bridge over the river just south of us, the highway department was replacing a huge section of railing to keep vehicles from going into the drink....

hmmm, it wasn't damaged last week :?
We have a bridge here just outside of Cleveland that goes over the Cuyahoga River, over 200 feet high and almost a mile long. I noticed going over it on Friday that a big section of fence was torn out - looks like that fence just barely saved this driver:





A few years back a tractor trailer jackknifed in pretty much the same place and the cab went over the side, the driver did not survive the 200-foot fall.

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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by DenverWinger » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:40 am

Wasn't it the Cuyahoga that caught fire back when they were still making GL-1000's? :mrgreen:
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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by WingAdmin » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:37 pm

DenverWinger wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:40 am
Wasn't it the Cuyahoga that caught fire back when they were still making GL-1000's? :mrgreen:
Sure was. :) But it was a bit earlier...1969:




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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by Solina Dave » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:33 pm

As some of you may have noticed, my signature states, "Assume Nothing". I should really not suggest that to be the case universally. Some things one could assume I suppose. Love for family and friends for example. And some other specifics like, "I assume I'm going to like that cold beer." My signature generally is in reference to a vast number of specific circumstances. One of which, and a very significant one at that, is to "Assume Nothing" while riding your motorcycle. You only have one chance to do it right. I think that might be part of the attraction in riding a motorcycle. But that, possibly very interaesting discussion, could be reserved for another time.
I tried to impress on my son, back when he was learning to drive, that when approaching an intersection, it's not a good idea to assume that everyone will do what the're supposed to do. Or, do what they appear to be doing. For example, just because someone is signaling a turn, doesn't mean they will in fact turn. Maybe they left their signal turned on from their previous turn, forgetting to turn it off. And also a driver appearing, to all intents and purposes, to be slowing down when approaching a stop sign, with the intention of coming to a stop. What if they decide at the last second not to stop? What if they do stop, but don't stay stopped? What if they look right at you, but still don't see you, and pull across right in front of you? What if they're just simply out and out drunk? Or what if they're just stupid? Oh, let me count the ways!
Anyway, that happened to me a few days ago, on a relatively quiet, very low traffic, ride in the country. I'm at 80 kph/50 mph approaching an intersection. A car is slowing down, and approaching a stop sign to my right. I've got no stop sign, and the right of way, (dead right?) on the highway. Assuming nothing, I rolled off on the thottle, and hovered over my brakes, all the while eyeballing the the car and the driver, who was seemingly staring right back at me. The car came to a full stop, and then pulled across the highway, making a left hand turn, right in front of me. Since I had prepared myself for that precise scenario, I was able to get right on the brakes, and avoid a probable collision. If I hadn't been looking ahead, and analyzing the scene, and I hadn't been adhering to my "Assume Nothing" philosophy, it would have been very messy for sure. Crap like that is happening far more often, with the dramatic increase in traffic flow. And I believe it's also due to faster, better handling cars, with collision avoidance systems instilling a false sense of security and invulnerability in drivers. Especially young, new drivers. But that also might be for a further discussion.
I'm not trying to preach. I'm just passing on a story of a close call. I'm sure that any of you who have been riding for while, have a similar story to tell. My point is to, please "ASSUME NOTHING". :o

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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by landisr » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:56 pm

My motto is similar, but "ASSUME THE WORST". Let them surprise me by doing the right thing.

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Post by FM-USA » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:09 pm

AND mine used to be "Expect the unexpected".
That worked well until I got hit from behind by a cage'r accelerating. ODD thing was, his wife was 7 mo. Pregnant. NOPE, they were not going to the hospital at 3 AM.

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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by Mountain rider » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:44 pm

Yes they are!!!! I almost got sandwiched by an out of state soccer mom in a mini van coming on the hi-way from the ramp and a guy in a pickup in the fast lane. Traveling happily along in my lane when soccer mom thinks she has the right of way when entering traffic and pickup guy is along side in the other lane. I'm reading bumper stickers up close and personal.

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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by JamesSwift » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:34 am

Interesting topic! Forgive me if I'm not writing there, but I wanted to ask for advice. I'm a novice driver, what could you advise me? It would be interesting to listen to experienced people.

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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by SlowTyper » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:57 am

Practice panic stops, so you can achieve maximum deacceleration without loosing control.

Practice "what ifs" in your mind. 'What if that guy pulls out or what if that guy changes lanes, what are my best options?'

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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by FM-USA » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:59 am

JamesSwift wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:34 am
Interesting topic! Forgive me if I'm not writing there, but I wanted to ask for advice. I'm a novice driver, what could you advise me? It would be interesting to listen to experienced people.
You're asking a lot since nearly every situation has several outcomes.
In general, Murphy says, anything that can happen, will.
#1, Always be aware of your surroundings and keep yourself AN OUT.
Meaning if there's the possibility of "X" happening, where will you move to get out of the way. Hopefully another lane, tight space between vehicles, open field or worse an unobstructed ditch that you CAN ride it out. Grass is much softer than stones, tho grass is slippery.
I always instruct a new passenger, if I yell hang on, you hang on. If I yell jump, DON'T hesitate, jump to a safer place. A few skin scrapes or broke bones heal a lot faster than retiring in the cemetery.

After a long while, making a conscious effort to keep an out at the ready, it'll almost become second nature and you'll do it instinctively.

HOPEFULLY others will chime in with their good advice'ses'es'es.

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Re: The idiots are out there

Post by Solina Dave » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:08 am

"ASSUME NOTHING"

Cheers.............Dave
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Post by FM-USA » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:12 am

SlowTyper wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:57 am
Practice panic stops, so you can achieve maximum deacceleration without loosing control.

Practice "what ifs" in your mind. 'What if that guy pulls out or what if that guy changes lanes, what are my best options?'
WOOOO, great advice. Scrub off as much speed as possible in an upright position, even in a turn.
Knowing how fast you can decellerate from "X" speed helps in a panic situation.

Once I had to lock up both wheels on asphalt. After parking the Wing I noticed both tires skid marks were about 5 ft long.

Practice makes perfect. Start at 10 mph & JUST SHORT OF locking up both wheels. Feel what the bike wants to do then move onto 20 mph, etc..

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