Having a real problem keeping my 92 1500 cc Gold Wing upright


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Re: Having a real problem keeping my 92 1500 cc Gold Wing upright

Post by DenverWinger » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:46 pm



I thought about that, too, have to measure the lines from ECU when not grounded by the switch. My guess is the ECU has pull-up resistors to either 5 volts or 12, measure that then choose the ratio of the two resistors lighting the LED so the voltage sourced by the LED circuit thru the diodes is smaller that that sourced by the ECU.... Then the diodes would simply block.

Not the first time I've forgotten to downshift at a stop, but I don't usually dump the bike on my foot when I do that, either! :lol:


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Re: Having a real problem keeping my 92 1500 cc Gold Wing upright

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:43 pm

I think that I have tried every possible way to ground a Goldwing...

the 1st time was on a 1500 after having owned an '84 and '86, neither of those decided to go to sleep.

Mesa, Arizona:
the '94SE? I was backing out of my garage down a gentle slope into the street.
this one time, I elected to back out and to the left, and take off to the right....
uh, did not back up far enough to give clearance of the street curb....
oops! right foot down to stop the bike, and crunch! right foot peg on ankle! ouch that hurt.
got up, rode to work, and limped for a few weeks.

2nd time? on my 'brand new to me' '98SE down north of Tampa, FL where I had just paid for it, and was starting my 3,000 mile journey home.... a horse trailer lost the left front tire carcass "kaboom!" and it sliced right across in front of me and took off some chrome.... I pulled off the right side of the highway, which had a gentle slope downhill to the right, and over balanced and the bike laid down....
I stepped clear of the whole thang and just let'er go..... those crash bars work! nothing touched the ground.

the 3rd time? right here at home, on my 2002.....
forget what I was doing, but I was in soft soil, high grass, and tried to take off to the right, and it went down.... just stepped off and left it alone... again, those Crash bars do a great job, nothing touched the ground.
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Re: Having a real problem keeping my 92 1500 cc Gold Wing upright

Post by tbird71 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:11 am

I had a 91 1500 SE and that setup scared me, the seat was probably wrong
I never dropped it but once in a gravel parking lot I was scared to death.
It also had a drivers backrest on it which to me only hurt my ability to get on and off
(I'm 5'8" 30" Inseam)
Sold it. I now ride a stock 89 with not ONE accesory on it and feel MUCH more comfortable
on it. Why I don't know, I DO know I'll NEVER own another 1991 model. (below)




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Re: Having a real problem keeping my 92 1500 cc Gold Wing upright

Post by gipsy42 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:25 pm

DenverWinger wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:46 pm
I thought about that, too, have to measure the lines from ECU when not grounded by the switch. My guess is the ECU has pull-up resistors to either 5 volts or 12, measure that then choose the ratio of the two resistors lighting the LED so the voltage sourced by the LED circuit thru the diodes is smaller that that sourced by the ECU.... Then the diodes would simply block.

Not the first time I've forgotten to downshift at a stop, but I don't usually dump the bike on my foot when I do that, either! :lol:
Hi DenverW..
I haven't it see it before; and you 're right about having some delay before the LED lights up. Don't worry about sending voltage to the ECU, there is no problem.
Why don't you take advantage of the circuit (or part of it) designed by our common friend Erdeniz of a gear indicator shown in this post:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=36453&p=281419&hili ... or#p281412


You need the 1" delay, otherwise your light will flicker with every gear change; I builded the advanced edition of such indicator using a DRO; or can use just the first part of the circuit (zener + transistor + capacitor) to create the time delay.

Please note that even so this is not a fool proof thing. Since the gear signaling unit is a rotating switch with gaps in between contacts, it may happen that you move downshifting trying to reach 1st gear (and instead it gets in between 3dr & 4th) and suddenly your LED lights up showing that you're on first gear. Please don't ask me how I know!!
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Re: Having a real problem keeping my 92 1500 cc Gold Wing upright

Post by DenverWinger » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:52 am

Ya, I've read Erdeniz' post before and I like that circuit.. Having bought one of the "Unobtanium 2.0" Firecreek replica panels (they are VERY good) I may just incorporate the entire gear display instead of just a single 1st gear LED.

Decisions-Decisions... what to put in the Unobtanium.
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Re: Having a real problem keeping my 92 1500 cc Gold Wing upright

Post by gipsy42 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:21 pm

You're right, the display would look cool in that place; but also you can always take a coin .....
.and flip it ;)
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Re: Having a real problem keeping my 92 1500 cc Gold Wing upright

Post by Raysur52 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:41 am

I have a little technique, under normal circumstances, even when there is a slight turn, but mainly straight on, I have a tendency to hard on front brake to stop, prepared for legs down, but only at 1 maybe 2 mph at most, and it seems to work very well, always an upright position and no wobble then you sort out neutral. I'm 67 and it helps me.

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Re: Having a real problem keeping my 92 1500 cc Gold Wing upright

Post by Wildwilly018 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:40 pm

I have been reading along here. I am 61, 5'11" maybe and 160 lbs maybe and I never struggle with my 88. I have even laid her over on purpose to see if I could pick her up. And did. Reading one post about bike being top heavy, has anyone road an 86 Yamaha Venture 1300 cc. V4 engine. All at the top. Rode one for 7 yrs and I can tip my wing over a lot further than the Yami before it takes over. And weight is relatively the same on both bikes. But I think the Yami prepared me for the wing on handling the weight.

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Re: Having a real problem keeping my 92 1500 cc Gold Wing upright

Post by tbird71 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:11 pm

I had a 99 Venture and what you say is right...you want top heavy get on a venture or worse
yet an OLDER venture royale like you said.

I sold my venture and bot a Tour Deluxe...problem solved!
Probably my all time favorite cruiser/tourer

Still love my 89 GL15, it sits a lil high for me (I'm 5' 7 1/2")
but just takes a little time learning how to stop/start/control it.
Not that big of a deal to me anyway



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