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Irritating Product Reviews

Post by OldZX11Rider » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:53 pm



I've been looking at the on-line dealers looking for a new helmet. I just got off the Revzilla website but they're not the only ones that do it.
I find a helmet that looks good, decent price and rated at X number of stars. So I look to see what is supposed to be owner reviews of the helmet.
But I'm not buying the first one I look at. So a bit later, here's the same word for word review but on a different helmet!
After a while, I begin to wonder if any reviews are by real motorcyclists and why I should believe any of them.
So p.o.'ed with this crap I just might start going back to local stores unless its a have to.
Anybody else notice this?


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Post by themainviking » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:28 am

I always go round to all the local and some not so local stores when shopping for a helmet. Most helmets are not comfortable for me. I find one that is comfortable, then go online and see if I can better the price. It needs to be better by a bunch, or I go back to the store and give them my business. Helmets are probably the most personal gear for motorcycling that a person can buy. Nobody's reviews are better than my own research. Fit is more important than finish.
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Re: Irritating Product Reviews

Post by dingdong » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:36 am

Yup. I hear you regarding reviews. Stopped paying much attention to the positives some time ago. Usually only read the one or two star reviews to get the negatives.
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Re: Irritating Product Reviews

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:21 am

Unfortunately most product reviews you read on sites that are actually selling the products in question are suspect, today. Amazon is terrible for this, but they are cleaning up their act - they set new rules recently that very heavily penalizes sellers for paid or falsified reviews. It appears that Amazon is in the process of cracking down on the fake reviews, which can only be a good thing.

Another thing that really annoys me (and that Amazon is also guilty of) is when the same review is used for multiple (only vaguely related) products. It's not that the same review is being posted multiple times - it's that the exact same review is being used for multiple products.

You might see a review on a Shoei helmet, then go look at a different Shoei helmet and see the same review - purely because both helmets are Shoei helmets. This is really deceptive - but the retailers are kind of up against it. Where is the delineation? What if a product comes in multiple sizes, with some versions that have some features and some versions that don't? Is it OK to use the same reviews for all of those? What if you want to find out about a helmet that has a visor on it, and the only versions of the reviews for that helmet are for the one without the visor? Are you better served by not seeing the non-visor reviews?

On the other hand, what if the visor makes the helmet a horrible product, because of wind or something. Is it then OK to have a great review shown for it, even though it was for the non-visor version of the product?

So it's a bit more complicated than you initially think.

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Re: Irritating Product Reviews

Post by OldZX11Rider » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:03 pm

I have been looking on-line because there are so many choices. Many that are not even available to try on locally.

I have only bought one helmet I couldn't try on first. That was maybe 20 years ago and I was very satisfied with that one.

I'm willing to take another chance and I'll probably buy another from bikebandit or revzilla or someone else but these "fake" reviews, are just like false advertising to me.

I'm glad Amazon is cracking down as they've not disappointed me yet and I will start looking at the negative, or critical, reviews more closely. What bothers some people may not be an issue to me.
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Post by HALBUDD » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:48 pm

My problem is I have a big head and cant find a helmet that will fit. I have to try on several different ones until I find one that fits just right. I cant see ordering one on line as it probably would not fit and I would have to send it back,and I hate sending stuff back. And Yes the reviews do suck I try to look at the negatives to see what the problems are and what others have posted. You have to decide for your self just my 2 cents-----------------------------------Hal
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Post by OldZX11Rider » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:15 pm

Well I've decided to just go tomorrow to every place around that sells helmets and just start trying them on.
I did go back and read the less than 5 star reviews. They seem to always be near the end. One helmet I was interested in rattles. Don't want another one of those.
I can live without the "cool" accessories if they're going to rattle.
Just looking for a helmet that's not going to give me a headache on a long trip. I need an oval or long oval one.
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Post by WingAdmin » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:45 pm

I have a somewhat large, very oddly-shaped head, and very few helmets fit me well. What I did was go to the motorcycle show where every helmet manufacturer has pretty much every model of helmet in every size ready for you to try on. That lets you really get a feel for what fits you well, and what doesn't.

In my case, I found the only helmet that fits me really well without hot spots are Arai's long oval shaped helmets.

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Post by detdrbuzzard » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:01 am

I bought a few hjc helmets online that didn't fit, I resold them so I wouldn't have to bother sending them back and got a shoei. I'm looking at a klim helmet, I'm going to go try one on soon to see how it fits
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Post by NVSB4 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:31 am

Agree that the best thing to do is to try it on before buying to get the one that fits best.
Fit can even vary between models from the same manufacturer.
If you can't find one local, at least buy from someone that has a great exchange policy.
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Post by spiralout » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:15 pm

detdrbuzzard wrote:I bought a few hjc helmets online that didn't fit, I resold them so I wouldn't have to bother sending them back and got a shoei. I'm looking at a klim helmet, I'm going to go try one on soon to see how it fits
I have a buddy who just got a carbon fiber Klim and it's so light it doesn't even feel like a real helmet. It's nice, but not worth 500 bucks to me. No clue on the fit though, I didn't try it on.

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Re: Irritating Product Reviews

Post by OldZX11Rider » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:50 pm

I went to every dealer I know of in the local area. Two Honda dealers, two Kawasaki one Harley and one Indian dealer.
Every dealer was cordial, but the only one that really seemed to understand what I wanted and really put forth an effort to earn my business was Indian.
They're also the newest business in the area. Only a couple two, three years old.

As soon as I get a helmet in that fits my head & wants, I'm going to buy it from them. ;)
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Post by NVSB4 » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:29 am

I'm surprised that you couldn't find anything at any of the dealers.
Unfortunately, you're pretty far away, but the next time you want to take a road trip check out Cycle Gear in Tulsa or Little Rock.
They have a LOT of helmets on hand and you can also look through at cyclegear.com.
They have a 30 day "no questions asked" return policy if you just want to order online as well.
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Post by OldZX11Rider » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:40 am

The local dealers had a nice selection of full face helmets but I'm looking for an open face helmet. It may be it's just the time of year.
I have been to a Cycle Gear store, near Nashville, Tn. I wish there was one closer as I really liked the store and I would shop there again.
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Post by detdrbuzzard » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:20 pm

spiralout wrote:
detdrbuzzard wrote:I bought a few hjc helmets online that didn't fit, I resold them so I wouldn't have to bother sending them back and got a shoei. I'm looking at a klim helmet, I'm going to go try one on soon to see how it fits
I have a buddy who just got a carbon fiber Klim and it's so light it doesn't even feel like a real helmet. It's nice, but not worth 500 bucks to me. No clue on the fit though, I didn't try it on.
a pinched nerve and herniated disc in my neck has me looking at the klim. I'm working a little overtime to help fund it but will probably need some cash form the profit sharing check
as for a 3/4 open face helmet I'm going to get a shoei after I get the klim
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Re: Irritating Product Reviews

Post by OldZX11Rider » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:25 pm

I'm not familiar with the Klim brand at all and the Shoei helmets, well, I figured they'd still be up in the $300-$400 range.
I just can't spend that much. I was looking for one less than $150.
I got a Fly Tourist. Its more round than what I really wanted but there's less pressure on my forehead that caused me to have headaches.


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