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Cold weather stamina

Post by Haskinhale » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:30 am



Hi all, planning to pick up my new 1996 se on Saturday. I've got about a 3 and a half hour ride to get it home. Problem is supposed to be 27 degrees. I know I can make it just not looking forward to it. How long can you guys ride at that temp without electric gear? Just curious. And no I don't have a vehicle to pull a trailer.



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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by brettchallenger » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:00 am

Below freezing - about 7 minutes
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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by NVSB4 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:25 am

The issue isn't going to be the ambient temperature, but the wind chill at speed.
If it's 27 sitting still, it's going to feel in the single digits when going 55.
And that's not counting any other wind going on.

I would definitely dress in multiple layers.
Also take your time and not try to "make it" or push yourself by going longer than comfortable.
If you have to stop to warm up, do it.

On the SE models, there are flaps by the feet (controlled by a big knob under the right front speaker) that will blow hot air on your feet.
Open up the lower vents as well to get some engine heat blowing through.
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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by 2wheelscram » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:52 am

For me in cold weather, it's always my feet that bother me first. If your riding boots aren't up for the cold, consider battery powered heated sock for the journey. I've not used them myself (yet)!

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by harvey01 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:05 am

How long can one ride in the cold without stopping?? That depends on many things but especially what you do wear. Good longjohns, good gloves with good liners, good boots with socks that hold warmth and so on have a lot to do with how long you can ride! How to dress is important as well as what you wear on the outer layer. You might consider wearing a rainsuit as you outer garment to block wind better.

But the real key is to manage yourself. You can stop at gas stations, convenience stores and so forth to get out of the cold and warm up a bit. I have stopped at those places to get warm and in summer to get cool. Fast food restaurants are also good and you can usually get free water to drink. While most will want a cup of coffee, I tend to go for hot chocolate but with either you have to be aware of the caffeine intake and how that effects you in the cold. Don't be ashamed to stop and get warm. This is better than getting too cold and then sick!
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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by minimac » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:15 am

I've done quite a few miles (hundreds) with temps in the twenties. I'll wear a long sleeve tee & a hoody under my heavy jacket/w lining. For pants, I have some Cortech kevlar cargo pants that are great. If you only have jeans, wear some wind pants over them. You don't want the wind to get to the skin. Even your rainsuit will work. I wear workboots with composite toe-no steel- and have been fine. If need be though, I have a couple of those little heat packs I can put in them and my gloves. I also carry some lightweight knee pads, only because I'm old and they really help keep my arthritic knees warm, if they start to get cold. Also, under my fullface helmet,I wear a thin painters balaclava. It really helps to keep the head warm and costs a couple of bucks at the paint store. It's important to stop often so you don't get a chill. As others said, layers work well-you can always take some off, but it's tough to add more if you don't have them. One other point. bring some chap stick and use it, and you may want to apply a thin layer of vasoline to protect your cheeks from windburn. The Goldwing has remarkable weather protection. Keep a sharp eye out for black ice, and sand on the pavement and you'll enjoy the ride!

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by Alan_Hepburn » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:32 pm

It's really only uncomfortable until hypothermia sets in... :mrgreen:
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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by MikeB » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:40 pm

You live in Michigan. I'd expect that you would already have a good set of electrically warmed gear. If you can afford to buy another bike, maybe you should consider buying some electric gear too. With electric gloves, jacket liner and shoe insoles and a proper pair of over pants, you will not be affected by the cold on a dry cold day. It would only take you a few minutes to connect the electric heat controller to the new bike. Do yourself a favor, don't plan a long ride where hypothermia is your destination.
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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by keithg64 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:17 pm

2wheelscram wrote:For me in cold weather, it's always my feet that bother me first. If your riding boots aren't up for the cold, consider battery powered heated sock for the journey. I've not used them myself (yet)!
Get the heat pack inserts for a dollar or 2. Some for your feet and some for your hands. Make sure your windshield is all the way up too.
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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by Lumberrunner » Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:42 pm

Thanks for the replies everybody. I plan on breaking the trip up in 60 mile intervals. I have pushed through cold for longer than that and I know I got hypothermic. I'm not gonna push myself like that again. I have heated gear in my future just not ready to purchase at this time. So I think 60 miles is doable then stop for some hot chocolate and I'll be fine. I really don't make it a regular habit to ride in anything below freezing. Just on rare occasions. I did ride one morning 45 miles to work when it was 14 degrees out on a 2004 honda shadow 750. I Looked like the guys from dumb and dumber when I got off the bike froze in position.

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by MikeB » Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:52 pm

Though riding in freezing weather is a problem, riding in below 40 degrees at any time will also cause issues.
At least get some heated gloves and a controller. There are some Gerbings gloves on closeout at Revzilla for a GREAT price.
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/gyd ... 20Combined
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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by MikeB » Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:58 pm

And, for $69.99 you can get a Heat-Troller from Amazon, or any other suitable vendor.
Revzilla sells them too https://www.revzilla.com/product/firstg ... at-troller
Totally compatible with Gerbing's.
Your hands will thank you.
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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by golden highway » Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:33 pm

Uhaul it will be very cold and the danger of an icy spot Uhaul or you could rent a Uhaul and have the bike safely strapped in the back of the Uhaul while you are sitting in heated cab of the Uhaul sipping hot coffee.

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by WingAdmin » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:09 pm

MikeB wrote:And, for $69.99 you can get a Heat-Troller from Amazon, or any other suitable vendor.
Revzilla sells them too https://www.revzilla.com/product/firstg ... at-troller
Totally compatible with Gerbing's.
Your hands will thank you.
Wow, $70. I really need to start making these. I could probably make one for about $10 in parts.

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by MikeB » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:46 pm

WingAdmin wrote: Wow, $70. I really need to start making these. I could probably make one for about $10 in parts.
I am sure you can. Let us know when you have some built. We will hit you up for a couple.
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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by pepepeririri » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:13 am

Humidity is the real problem. You have to stop it by using impermeable cloths.

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by Northwings » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:59 am

I have no trouble riding an hour or more in freezing temperatures without electric clothing and I am old with arthritis. The answer is snowmobile gear! It is specifically designed for low temperatures and high wind. The helmet has gap seals to match the jacket. The gloves are insulated, wind and waterproof. The bib pants slip on over jeans and boots. The boots are waterproof and have thick felt liners. This winter I switched back and forth between my GL 1800 and my Yamaha Venture snowmobile, but clothing stayed the same. If you can ride 70 mph at zero degrees on a sled, you can ride 50 mph at thirty degrees on a heavily faired GL. Just watch out for ice and keep out of the salt!

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by bugsbd » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:39 pm

I know what he is saying, my wife hates to ride in the cold and I love it, I have spent hundreds of dollars on electric wear to keep her warm and nothing works. She hates it, and even dresses in layers. The freeze out gear really helps me but does nothing for her, even the heated seat and grips don't help much for her.. Maybe circulation problems is the issue. But she loves to ride so our stops are longer than our rides but at least she is a trooper about it. Just be sensitive to them.

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by Northwings » Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:16 pm

I know what you mean, bugsbd. My wife will ride on the snowmobile in any weather, but quits the bike at about the same temperature as yours. I think a lot of it is psychological, but don't tell them that!

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by minimac » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:57 pm

Northwings wrote:..... I think a lot of it is psychological, but don't tell them that!


That doesn't just apply to riding, either!

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by diversity48 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:46 pm

My opinion? Figure out a way to get a heated liner and gloves, some jeans covers (i have joe rocket but there are many others), full face helmet...you'll be good to go. How can you ride in Michigan without heated gear? Cycle Gear has some cheap stuff that seems to hold up well,

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by Old Wing Man » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:48 am

While living in Alberta Canada, I managed to ride my 1500 Kawasaki Vulcan (with windshield only) at least once a month all thru winter. My limiting factor was getting out of my sub-division and onto main streets because they didn't plow the sub streets so I had to wait for a Chinook to melt the ice. I have ridden (only about an hour ride each way) in temps of minus 30 without any problems. Good insulated gloves, some good thermal underwear, and a good insulated windbreaker over jeans is all I ever needed. Also a balaclava to keep the cold air off my neck. I just used my nylon shell duck down jacket over flannel shirt and thermal underwear and I was good to go.
My hands would start to get cold after about an hour which is about the only problem I had. If I had my Goldwing up there with all the shrouds to keep the air off, I think I could have road much farther. Luckily the biker hangout was just a pleasant ride up into the mountains from Calgary. The air was so dry there and the main roads were cleared and never had ice buildup on them, so bikers who could brave the cold could ride all winter long.

Oh, yeah, I did buy a snowmobile suit to use when riding up there but after a couple of uses, I found that my ice fishing clothing(as described above)worked plenty well and I didn't need the heavy and stiff clothing. I still have the suit taking up space in my closet. I may need it to ride in the winter around here due to the high humidity. +30F here feels colder than -30F up in Alberta due to it really low humidity

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by FM-USA » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:52 am

Haskinhale wrote:Hi all, planning to pick up my new 1996 se on Saturday. I've got about a 3 and a half hour ride to get it home. Problem is supposed to be 27 degrees. I know I can make it just not looking forward to it. How long can you guys ride at that temp without electric gear? Just curious. And no I don't have a vehicle to pull a trailer.
In T-Shirts I'm good to about 10*F and need a sweatshirt below that.
LOL, no, not only said clothing. It's what I wear under the same outerwear. I also wear my summer socks and shoes.
"How it's done." (TV show slogan?)
I have a coat with a long sleeved, down filled vest. The pants are basic blue-jeans with 100 Thinsulate. Gloves are layered depending on the weather & it's moisture content. The biggest asset you can have in gloves is "Glove Covers". They will hold your glove inventory to 3 tops. One pair each of summer, cool spring and deep winter.
I've tried 3 different styles of winter gloves, 5 finger, mittens and the "Trigger finger" style. The latter is my favorite to ride down to -17*F. Yes that is MINUS 17.
AND IF YOU'RE WONDERING, just jeans? No, I have bib style ski-pants. Lightweight ones for -5*F and a heavy pair for lower than that. The heavy pair are EXTRA LONG legs to partly cover the shoes to keep air from filtering in. THAT folks is the KEY to riding s really cold temps, dead air space.
Lastly, I refrain from wearing a helmet. "TO ME" they hinder my safety BUT will wear one WHEN i feel it's needed. DON'T BOTHER CHIMING IN, WE'VE HEARD ENOUGH. To each it's own. ANYWAYS: I wear a troopers hat that I've modified slightly.
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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by Old Wing Man » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:53 am

In addition to above post, heated gloves would have made even long rides comfortable. I found that fingers get cold way before anything else even with the best insulated gloves. I just don't ride enough in cold weather to justify the cost of any heated equipment. Insulated boots with thick wool socks kept my feet toasty warm, but those darned fingers just would not stay warm. I think maybe gripping the handbars contributed to that also.

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Re: Cold weather stamina

Post by MikeB » Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:19 pm

Haskinhale wrote:Hi all, planning to pick up my new 1996 se on Saturday. I've got about a 3 and a half hour ride to get it home. Problem is supposed to be 27 degrees. I know I can make it just not looking forward to it. How long can you guys ride at that temp without electric gear? Just curious. And no I don't have a vehicle to pull a trailer.
We have not heard from the original poster yet. Did he pick up the bike? What did he do to stay comfortable? Is he home yet? How was the trip? How does he like the new ride?


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